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Испратена: 14.Декември.2007 во 16:18 |
Брат ние имаме историја бе што ти е...... Ние имаме најубава историја на цел свет За татковината
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Испратена: 14.Декември.2007 во 16:24 |
Имаме Имаме најубава историја но некои мислат дека тоа не го знаеме
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Испратена: 14.Декември.2007 во 17:32 |
Vo vrska so ova deka znaeme; na eden drug forum eden Grk zboreshe sto zboreshe, VIE Bugari.... VIE bla..bla....a NIE se u kontra napad demek.....pa ochigledno NEMOZEJKI da go istrpi otporot reche; "How didn't you get brainwashed by now"?? Ili...kako ne ni no isprale mozokot do sega??
Znachi ushte ednash (megu mnogu drugi) si se izdadoa deka lazat. ![намигнување](http://forum.idividi.com.mk/smileys_novi/3.gif)
Posle ova toj veke NE se pojavi na toj forum. ![голема%20насмевка](http://forum.idividi.com.mk/smileys_novi/4.gif)
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Испратена: 14.Декември.2007 во 17:37 |
NEKOLKU INTERESNI STRANICI VO VRSKA SO SLOVENITE I MAKEDONCITE.
Posts tagged with "Slavs"
Wednesday, 16. August 2006, 05:56:58
Slavs
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Испратена: 17.Декември.2007 во 22:59 |
Ајде муко ајде!!!!!!!
Пелазгите и Славомакедонците?????????
Херодот,Страбон??????
Абе каква врска имат денешните Славомакедонци со Античките Македони никаква ама баш никаква,јазикот кој вие????.
Страбон пишува:„Народите од Епир,Илириа,и Македониа зборуваат истиот јазик,и косата ја носаат исто.Ги имаат истите закони,и се управуваат од едно собрание од стари луѓе кој се вика ПЛАКОНИА.Старите мажи ги викаат ПЛАИЏ а старите жени ги викаат ПЛАИЏЕ.
На Албански како се вика Старец или Старица прашајте па научете нешто.
Еден совет би ви дал за да можете да ја разберете историјата од Антика најпрвин би трабало да го научете Албанскиот јазик кој е директен и единствен наследник на Илирскиот.
Е сега повелете па почнете со вашиот Барбарски речник и пцујте како што имате закон.
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Испратена: 17.Декември.2007 во 23:30 |
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Poglednite go ovoa, do sega go nemashe vidno ovoa, sega pred malce go najde: ![](http://bp2.blogger.com/_ofsKG4Jlu5I/R2ZULX01azI/AAAAAAAAAN4/cCw0JExmGe4/s400/Saxons+Macedonians+cover.jpg)
![](http://bp1.blogger.com/_ofsKG4Jlu5I/R2ZUIH01ayI/AAAAAAAAANw/Wq7UxLQmIsg/s400/Saxons+Macedonians+1.jpg)
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for February, 1699. 83 of their ancient Country, destroyed by Vespasian, as they al- ledge. He likewise confutes their Opinion of their being descended from Frisius, Son to Clogio, King of France, and that his Posterity paid a Tribute of 260 Oxen to the French, as a Token of Homage, and thinks it rather true, that the French derive their Origin from the Freezlanders, according to Beatus Rhenanus and Adrianus Ju- nius. Then he attacks the Opinion of those who say, the Frison's are descended from Grunius the Trojan, the Builder of Groningen, and therefore writ them Phrysii, as nearer the Phryges their Progeni- tors, and at last tells us his own Sentiments, that Freso, the Foun- der of their Nation, with his Brethren Saxo and Bruno, came from an Indian Province called Benedicta Fresia ; where having served under Alexander the Great, and not daring to stay in the Coun- try after his Death took shipping with what they could bring off, and landing in this Country, called it Fresia, after his own Name. This he insists upon at large in this Third Book, and thinks it the more probable, because the Story of Saxo, the Founder of the Saxon Nation, agrees with it. He says all Authors, Crantzius ex- cepted, agree. That the Saxons were some Remains of the Mace- donian Army ; and that before they came into Germany, they were called Macedonians ; for this he quotes the German Chro- nicle, printed at Mentz, in 1482. the Annals of Freezland, and others. His next Proof for this is ancient Rhimes, Constant Tradition, and the Universal Opinion of the Frisons, who have entertained it from Father to Son successively, and convey'd it to one another by Rhimes, a Custom, says he, which the most prudent Nations have made use of, as the readiest Preservative against Oblivion. He tells us moreover, that all the Freezland. Historians he hath seen, give their Suffrage this way. As a further Proof of this, he alledges, That the Frisons were constantly great Lovers of Learning, and therefore could easily pre- serve their Origin and Antiquities from Oblivion. He says also, that Freso, their Founder, was versed in all the Learning of the Greeks, and erected a sort of Academies in many places, where Youth were instructed in Learning, and the Art of War ; and that he erected one particularly at Stavren, near Stavo's Temple, and placed a great Library in the Temple it self.
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Испратена: 18.Декември.2007 во 05:04 |
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borec напиша:
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Poglednite go ovoa, do sega go nemashe vidno ovoa, sega pred malce go najde:
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for February, 1699. 83 of their ancient Country, destroyed by Vespasian, as they al- ledge. He likewise confutes their Opinion of their being descended from Frisius, Son to Clogio, King of France, and that his Posterity paid a Tribute of 260 Oxen to the French, as a Token of Homage, and thinks it rather true, that the French derive their Origin from the Freezlanders, according to Beatus Rhenanus and Adrianus Ju- nius. Then he attacks the Opinion of those who say, the Frison's are descended from Grunius the Trojan, the Builder of Groningen, and therefore writ them Phrysii, as nearer the Phryges their Progeni- tors, and at last tells us his own Sentiments, that Freso, the Foun- der of their Nation, with his Brethren Saxo and Bruno, came from an Indian Province called Benedicta Fresia ; where having served under Alexander the Great, and not daring to stay in the Coun- try after his Death took shipping with what they could bring off, and landing in this Country, called it Fresia, after his own Name. This he insists upon at large in this Third Book, and thinks it the more probable, because the Story of Saxo, the Founder of the Saxon Nation, agrees with it. He says all Authors, Crantzius ex- cepted, agree. That the Saxons were some Remains of the Mace- donian Army ; and that before they came into Germany, they were called Macedonians ; for this he quotes the German Chro- nicle, printed at Mentz, in 1482. the Annals of Freezland, and others. His next Proof for this is ancient Rhimes, Constant Tradition, and the Universal Opinion of the Frisons, who have entertained it from Father to Son successively, and convey'd it to one another by Rhimes, a Custom, says he, which the most prudent Nations have made use of, as the readiest Preservative against Oblivion. He tells us moreover, that all the Freezland. Historians he hath seen, give their Suffrage this way. As a further Proof of this, he alledges, That the Frisons were constantly great Lovers of Learning, and therefore could easily pre- serve their Origin and Antiquities from Oblivion. He says also, that Freso, their Founder, was versed in all the Learning of the Greeks, and erected a sort of Academies in many places, where Youth were instructed in Learning, and the Art of War ; and that he erected one particularly at Stavren, near Stavo's Temple, and placed a great Library in the Temple it self.
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A be kaj go najde ova - ALAL
DA TI E!!!!!!! ![среќа](smileys_novi/1.gif) ![среќа](file:///C:/DOCUME%7E1/ANDREA%7E1/LOCALS%7E1/Temp/msohtml1/01/clip_image001.gif)
Ova objasnuva mnogu raboti - zoshto Germancite ne podrzuvaat, zosto imaat
izjavi kakao ovie;
IF EUROPE LOSES MACEDONIA?
The mid-century German authors did not make any
distinction between ancient Macedonia
and any other Macedonian country. As far as they were concerned, Macedonia
has always existed as an entity. They acknowledged that Macedonia offered Europe the best examples of wisdom.
Therefore, according to them, if Europe were to lose Macedonia
it would soon be lost itself, says Wolf Oschlies.
I would not bother the readers, but I think that
such a work, like Brandt’s literary poem, has contributed to the formation of
the German sympathy towards the Macedonians. This sympathy still exists and is
shown by the words of the German Foreign Minister, Klaus Kinkel who, during the
visit of his Macedonian counterpart Blago Handziski to Bonn, said:” Macedonia is very much
liked in Germany.”
Wolf Oschlies, Berlin
The greatest king was, of course, Alexander the
Macedonian. The Germans knew that without a doubt. Macedonia
was a very popular subject among the Germans at the time. This was the 15th
century--the time when the Turks occupied the Balkans. Most Germans did not know
anything about Bosnia
or Bulgaria,
but they all knew Macedonia--
they knew what and where it was. The scholar Brandt knew all these countries by
their classical names. Chapter 10 entitled About the Fall of Religion deals
with the military campaign of the Turks in the Balkans. It is a kind of atlas
drawn by Brandt as an expression of his sincere sympathy for the losses of
Christian Europe:
“How much has Europe lost in such a short time?
I isto taka ZOSHTO SE TOLKU PAMETNI I
USPESHNI!!! ![голема%20насмевка](smileys_novi/4.gif) ![голема%20насмевка](file:///C:/DOCUME%7E1/ANDREA%7E1/LOCALS%7E1/Temp/msohtml1/01/clip_image001.gif)
Sto se odnesuva za Britancite jas mislam deka I TIE
SE OD ISTO POTEKLO - megutoa ja imaat prifateno Grchkata propaganda t.e
hellenizmot ushte odamna, za koi i den denes imaat posledici.
Za da ja potkrepam mojava teza eve nekolku zapisi
sto go potvrduvaat hellenistichkoto vlijanie kon niv:
- The earliest known settlement in Plymouth, England dates back to this era. (ova
se Ethiopjani - pravoto poteklo na Grcite) rashireni po svetov za
nivno OKUPIRANJE I PREVLAST). Ova mnogu poubavo se gleda kako kompletna
slika na Ethiopjanite ushte od samiot niven pochetok, kade jasno se
gledaat i nivnite naseluvanja na Balkanot t.e Makedonija ili deneshna
Grcija;
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/10th_Century_BC
- Tiberius Claudius wrote about the movements of some Greek tribes into
the Balkan peninsula:
“Among
these Celts, if the word is to have any significance, (are included) even the
Achaen Greeks, who had established themselves for some time in the Upper Danube
Valley before pushing southward into Greece. Yes,
the Greeks are comparative newcomers to Greece. They displaced the native
Pelasgians ... This happened not long before the Trojan War; the Dorian Greeks
came still later -eighty years after the Trojan War. Other Celts of the same
race invaded France and Italy at about
the same time."
- Celtic
Influence. In
282-280 B.C., a Celtic army of about 170,000 led by Brennos and Achicorius
entered Macedonia
and, with Bolgios, overwhelmed the country. The Celtic army swept into Greece, defeating the Greeks at Thermopylae, and
went on to sack the temple
of Delphi, the most
sacred site of the Hellenic world, before withdrawing. The Celtic army
eventually withdrew in an orderly manner, taking their loot with them. No Greek
army was strong enough to attack them. The Celtic invasions had a lasting
effect on Greek consciousness, being commemorated in Greek literature.
Though
some remained as mercenaries, the bulk of the Celtic armies moved north again,
having found little room to settle in populated Greece
and Macedonia.
The Celts remained in Thrace,
though they were Hellenized. The Scordisci had established a prosperous and
strong kingdom around modern Belgrade,
and one Celtic tribe settled on the slopes of Haemos. However, most went
further north and east, some even settling in Asia Minor, in Galatia. ![ѕвезда](smileys_novi/79.gif)
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Испратена: 18.Декември.2007 во 09:20 |
borec напиша:
A be kaj go najde ova - ALAL
DA TI E!!!!!!!
Ova objasnuva mnogu raboti - zoshto Germancite ne podrzuvaat, zosto imaat
izjavi kakao ovie;
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Imam digitalen pristap do nekoj Stari Biblioteki, sho online ne mozhesh da ulezesh. ali mozham da pravam kopii i takvi raboti. JAS NE ZNAM SHO DA MISLAM ZA TOA GORE, KNIGATA E PRILICHNO STARA, A NA SREDNOVEKOVNI AUTORI NE SE ZNAE DALI DA SE VERUVA. AMA AKO E TOCHNO SETO TOA, NELI TREBA OSHE DA SE ISPITUVA KAKO E SHO E, TOGAJKA AKO E TOCHNO, TOA STVARNO OTVARA DRUGI POGLEDI NA SVETO. OD TAM I NAJVEROJANTO SITE TIE ZBOROVI, I CELI CLUSTERS U GERMANSKIO I ANGLISKIO JAZIK, SHO SE OD "SLAVJANSKI" KOREN. KE VIDEME NATAM SHO KE ISPADNE.
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Испратена: 18.Декември.2007 во 10:00 |
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borec напиша:
<p style="margin-bottom: 12pt;">A be kaj go najde ova - ALAL
DA TI E!!!!!!! <!--[endif]-->
Ova objasnuva mnogu raboti - zoshto Germancite ne podrzuvaat, zosto imaat
izjavi kakao ovie;<span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Verdana;"></span>
| Imam digitalen pristap do nekoj Stari Biblioteki, sho online ne mozhesh da ulezesh. ali mozham da pravam kopii i takvi raboti.JAS NE ZNAM SHO DA MISLAM ZA TOA GORE, KNIGATA E PRILICHNO STARA, A NA SREDNOVEKOVNI AUTORI NE SE ZNAE DALI DA SE VERUVA.AMA AKO E TOCHNO SETO TOA, NELI TREBA OSHE DA SE ISPITUVA KAKO E SHO E, TOGAJKA AKO E TOCHNO, TOA STVARNO OTVARA DRUGI POGLEDI NA SVETO.OD TAM I NAJVEROJANTO SITE TIE ZBOROVI, I CELI CLUSTERS U GERMANSKIO I ANGLISKIO JAZIK, SHO SE OD "SLAVJANSKI" KOREN.KE VIDEME NATAM SHO KE ISPADNE. |
CESTITKI ;BRAVO BRAT;MNOGU VAZEN DOKUMENT;
Cudno mi e kako Grcite ne go unistile do sega.
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Испратена: 18.Декември.2007 во 10:05 |
kultuzin напиша:
Cudno mi e kako Grcite ne go unistile do sega. |
Pa izgleda deka ne sa imale pristap ![намигнување](smileys_novi/3.gif) sepak celoto e mnogu chudno i interesno. Bi sakal nesho poveke da najdam na temata, kako na primer tie referenci tam sho se dadeni od Germanskite Hroniki. Ke videme natam.
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Испратена: 18.Декември.2007 во 10:27 |
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kultuzin напиша:
Cudno mi e kako Grcite ne go unistile do sega. | Pa izgleda deka ne sa imale pristap sepak celoto e mnogu chudno i interesno. Bi sakal nesho poveke da najdam na temata, kako na primer tie referenci tam sho se dadeni od Germanskite Hroniki.Ke videme natam. |
I jas sum vo Germanija ako sakas prati mi mail na( kultuzin@yahoo.co.uk)od kaj gi naogas dokumentive,mozam da ostvaram kontakt so Hanz-Lothar Stephan,prviot ambasador vo Mekdonija sto bese.
Toj ja ima napisano knigata "Der Mazedonische Knoten",super e knigata,za podelbata na Makedonija se rasprava,megutoa za zal,tamu stoi deka sme Sloveni.
Vo eden razgovor toja rece,"kazi mi kaj da baram vrska pomegu vas i Antickite Makedonci i vednas ke go smenam mojot stav.
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Испратена: 18.Декември.2007 во 11:26 |
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Prati ti Email, proveri..............
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Taka ve sakam braka, koga ste slozni!!!!! ![среќа](smileys_novi/1.gif)
Chabe ne rekle starite "poveke glavi poubavo mislat" - a ako se so ista cel togash USPEHOT E NEMINOVEN. ![задоволство](smileys_novi/15.gif)
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