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 DA NE SE SLUCAJNO SITE OVIE DENESNI MAKEDONCI?

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SIGURNO DEKA NE SE ISTITE - ZOSTO NIKOJ NE ZIVEE 8OOO god.

Megutoa SE NIVNITE KRVNI NASLEDNICI!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

     

A ako ne znaes sto znaci toa - eve ova ke ti objasni:

http://www.makedonika.org/processpaid.aspcontentid=ti.2001.pdf

 Macedonians

Our results show that Macedonians are related to other Mediterraneans

and do not show a close relationship with Greeks; however

they do with Cretans (Tables 3, 4, Figs 1–3). This supports the

theory that Macedonians are one of the most ancient peoples

existing in the Balkan peninsula, probably long before arrival of the

Mycaenian Greeks (10) about 2000 B.C. Other possible explanation

is that they might have shared a genetic background with the

Greeks before an hypothetical admixture between Greeks and sub-

Saharans might have occurred. The cultural, historical and genetic

identity of Macedonians is established according to our results.

However, 19th century historians focused all the culture in Greece

Tissue Antigens 2001: 57: 118–127 125

ignoring all the other Mediterranean cultures present in the area

long before the classical Greek one (25).

ILI PAK OVA:

American Association for the Advancement of Science

In the genetic analysis published by the Science Magazine of the American Association for the Advancement of Science, participated Macedonians from the Macedonian minority of Northern Greece (Aegean Macedonia) and Greeks, among with other European nations.  The research shows a drastic difference in the Y chromosome genetic composition between the Greeks and Macedonians who live in Greece, as figure 3 clearly demonstrates.  This is another proof that the Macedonians (the descendents of the Macedonians of Alexander the Great) which after the occupation of southern Macedonia (Aegean Macedonia) by the Greek army in 1913 find themselves living in Greece, have genetically never been Greeks.  

Click here to read the genetic report (generously provided by Robert Hristovski).

2001

The remarkable results of the recent genetic scientific research (NATIONAL CENTER FOR BIOTECHNOLOGY INFORMATION, Universidad Complutense, Madrid, Spain) on the Macedonians and Greeks scientifically confirmed that TODAY'S MACEDONIAN NATION IS DIRECT DESCENDENT OF THE ANCIENT MACEDONIANS, NOT RELATED NEITHER TO THE BULGARIANS, NOR TO THE GREEKS. The genetic study showed that the ancient Macedonian Genes found in today's Macedonians belong to the "older" Mediterranean substratum along with the remains of the ancient nations of Phrygia (Anatolia), Carthage (North Africa), Rome (Italy), Phoenicia (Lebanon). The Greeks on the other hand, do not belong to this group, but rather have a substantial relatedness to sub-Saharan (Ethiopian) people, which separate them from other Mediterranean groups.

HLA alleles have been determined in individuals from the Republic of Macedonia by DNA typing and sequencing. HLA-A, -B, -DR, -DQ allele frequencies and extended haplotypes have been for the first time determined and the results compared to those of other Mediterraneans, particularly with their neighbouring Greeks. Genetic distances, neighbor-joining dendrograms and correspondence analysis have been performed. The following conclusions have been reached:

1) Macedonians belong to the "older" Mediterranean substratum, like Iberians (including Basques), North Africans, Italians, French, Cretans, Jews, Lebanese, Turks (Anatolians), Armenians and Iranians,

2) Macedonians are not related with geographically close Greeks, who do not belong to the "older" Mediterranenan substratum,

3) Greeks are found to have a substantial relatedness to sub-Saharan (Ethiopian) people, which separate them from other Mediterranean groups. Both Greeks and Ethiopians share quasi-specific DRB1 alleles, such as *0305, *0307, *0411, *0413, *0416, *0417, *0420, *1110, *1112, *1304 and *1310. Genetic distances are closer between Greeks and Ethiopian/sub-Saharan groups than to any other Mediterranean group and finally Greeks cluster with Ethiopians/sub-Saharans in both neighbour joining dendrograms and correspondence analyses. The time period when these relationships might have occurred was ancient but uncertain and might be related to the displacement of Egyptian-Ethiopian people living in pharaonic Egypt.

NCBI SOURCE: http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/entrez/query.fcgi?cmd=Retrieve&db=PubMed&list_uids=11260506&dopt=Abstract

NCBI Website: http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/

http://www.makedonika.org/processpaid.aspcontentid=ti.2001.pdf

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