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Messenger напиша: EvAngelos, ako go prosledam ova sto mi go porachuvash, togash trebashe prvin da pochnam so tvojot komentar (kade sto na Orthophill mu se obrakjash so Asya)... a i so povekje drugi tvoi komentari kade sto imash obichaj na edni registrirani iminja da im se obratuvash so drugi, nebare toa "razotkrivanje" na "vistinskite lichnosti" koi stojat zad niv ke pridonese nekako za avtoritativnosta na tvoeto religiozno veruvanje. Vo nitu edna religija ne se propoveda deka treba da bideme skromni i so pochit samo kon nie koi gi delat nash*te verski ubeduvanja.

 

Изменето од EvAngelos - 30.Август.2008 во 19:01

@ David1

Zaboraviv da ti posocham deka dokolku sakash da diskutirash za nekoe posebno prashanje, otvori nova tema. Ovaa e rezervirana za Verski Vesti. Tuka vekje premnogu odime off-topic, pa da ne dozvolime toa da se oddolzhi ushte poveke.

Битно кај Господ не е заборавен.

Sega na A1 gledam vesti i navistina slednava info deluva mnogu verodostojno....i koja bi bila poentata ili znachenjeto na vakvoto pojauvanje na Presveta Bogorodica, i toa taka slichno so poznatata ikona ?
    
Суеверие или вистинско чудо - на дрво се појави ликот на Богородица

video
http://www.a1.com.mk/

Изменето од Marko sk - 22.Јули.2009 во 19:51

Mene mi e somnitelna ovaa rabota otkako go izgledav videoto. Stom vednas ne se pojavila freskata , tuku e zabelezana kasno vecerta, mozno e nekoj umetnik grubo da naslikal konturi od poznata ikona... Uste koga drvoto pred da go secat bilo nameneto za crkovni potrebi.

Mozno e nekoj da go spremal ova , mozebi i so dobri nameri,za da se zajakne verata kaj lugeto, ama mene ne mi se veruva... Bog neka mi prosti ako gresam ...


P.S. Nasata Hristijanska vera ne treba da zavisi od cuda, tuku od presvedocuvanje vo srceto . Mnogu takvi cuda i slicni nesta vo minatoto bea otkrieni kako falsifikat i lugeto se razocaruvaa.Ne znam, skepticen sum...


Изменето од KINGDAVID - 23.Јули.2009 во 04:52

ABC's Dana Hughes reports from Nairobi:

The trial of a female Sudanese journalist and UN worker, Lubna Ahmed Hussein, charged with wearing “indecent clothing” began today.  Earlier this month she and 12 other women were reportedly dining in a Khartoum restaurant when 20 to 30 police officers came in and arrested them for wearing...pants.  Not hot pants.  Not shorts. Rather long dress pants, which apparently run afoul of the largely Muslim country’s strict sharia law.

Several of the women took their punishment, 10 lashes and a $100 fine, on the spot.  But not Hussein. She saw the charge as an opportunity to highlight a law she calls inhuman. If convicted she will have to pay a fine and receive 40 lashes.

 

For today’s trial she reportedly printed out 500 hundred invitations and sent emails, asking people to come and support her.  Hussein also works for the UN Mission in Sudan. It’s a position that could have allowed her immunity to prosecution, which she waived today in front of a packed court room.

"I want to change this law, because hitting is not human,” Hussein told the BBC.  “Also it does not match with Sharia law."  Hussein claims that there’s nothing in Islam which forbids women to wear pants. Some of the women arrested were not even Muslim, and therefore would not be subject to sharia law anyway, she said.  The case has been adjourned until next week.

This is not the first time Sudan’s strict laws have been in the spotlight.  Two years ago, 55-yr-old British school teacher Gillian Gibbons was charged with the crime of insulting Islam after naming her classroom teddy bear Mohammed, the name of Islam’s highest prophet.  Gibbons spent a week in jail and was deported before her sentence, which also included 40 lashes.

Iran, Afghanistan and other Muslim countries also have very strict dress codes, but there are non-Muslim countries in Sub-Saharan African where women’s attite is under moral, if not legal, scrutiny.  Last year Uganda’s ethics and integrity minister held a press conference devoted to the indecency of mini-skirts.  He said they were akin to running around naked and that women wearing them were a major cause of traffic accidents, due to Ugandan men being “weak mentally.”  He proposed passing a law making them illegal. 

The law didn’t pass but the debate over what’s considered “indecent” rages on, not only in Uganda and Sudan, but throughout the Sub-continent.  In South Africa women have taken to the streets protesting sexual harassment and rape by the country’s taxi and bus drivers.  The drivers claim women wearing mini-skirts are “asking for it,” and are rarely prosecuted for their crimes.  In Kenya, the Mungiki sect, often described as a criminal gang priding itself on being based on Kikuyu tribal traditions, have publicly stripped women wearing mini-skirts, pants, or any other form of dressing members decide is indecent.

What all these places have in common, whether based on religion or tradition, is an on-going clash over whether a woman’s clothing affirms or threatens the society’s values.  Sudan’s law says wearing pants is a Western tradition and a crime against Islam.  Lubna Ahmed Hussein says that violates hers and every woman’s human rights.  The debate may be playing out publicly in a Khartoum courtroom, but women and men are having it all over Africa.