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pagane напиша: 10. От всичко казано дотук не виждам какво може да им се оспори- езика, културата, нацията/самосъзнанието/?

      In the ancient times the criteria for being Greek was "Greek by culture".

      In the Byzantine times the word Greek had a religious meaning including the followers of paganism, an ancient religion. So in the middle ages we speak about "Greek by religion"

      In the first period of the Ottoman era there was no such thing as "Greek". The determination "Greek" appears after the "New Greek enlightenment" at the end of 18th century (Elliniki Nomarhia, Rigas etc.). The criteria then was "Greek by ethnicity".

      Today's Greek state follows the racist law of "Greek by blood". A public declaration that you are Greek, the assistance of local state trustees who verify your healthy national beliefs, along with a document that one of your ancestors was recorded somewhere as Greek are the necessary conditions for one to qualify to be Greek.
      I have seen some funny discussions between ex-soviet citizens on how they would be recognized as Greeks. "My uncle was Greek, and you?" "The cousin of my aunt" was Greek, etc, etc.
      The criteria of what is Greek changes from time to time throughout history.
Greek by culture
Greek by religion
Greek by ethnicity
Greek by blood
      How can you claim continuity of a group of people throughout time since the criteria to define this group has changed 4 times in this course of history?

pagane напиша: Пак сме в световната конспирация...

1. AFTER this they were dispersed abroad, on account of their languages, and went out by colonies every where; and each colony took possession of that land which they light upon, and unto which God led them; so that the whole continent was filled with them, both the inland and the maritime countries. There were some also who passed over the sea in ships, and inhabited the islands: and some of those nations do still retain the denominations which were given them by their first founders; but some have lost them also, and some have only admitted certain changes in them, that they might be the more intelligible to the inhabitants. And they were the Greeks who became the authors of such mutations. For when in after-ages they grew potent, they claimed to themselves the glory of antiquity; giving names to the nations that sounded well (in Greek) that they might be better understood among themselves; and setting agreeable forms of government over them, as if they were a people derived from themselves.