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efendija
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Докажи го спротивното!!! |
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"Zadovolen sum Allah da mi bide Gospod,Muhammed pejgamber a Islamot vera"
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Templarius
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Mocnosta na faktite koi gi iznesuvam ne mozat da bidat pobieni so vasite navredi vrz mojata licnost. Definitvno vaseto ismevanje ja potvrduva vasata nemoc da dikutirate.
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Give me your secrets
Bring me a sign Give me a reason To walk the fire See another dawn Through our son's eyes You give me a reason To walk the fire. |
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Halid ibn Velid
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sTO E OVA??? Za da debatiras so nekogo treba da Debatiras na onoj Jazik koj e Poznat za onoj so koj Debatiras!! P.s. Zaboraviv Deka Ti niso nemas od Sebesi,i deka niso ne znais,Ova ti e od Tutorite,Ti kazale stiskaj ENTER,SAMO I TOLKU. P.s.2..Na prasanjeto koe si go postavil na Dogma,Odgoveorenio ti e,ILI TUTORITE SEGA SE NEMOCNI!!?? |
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Templarius
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Ovaa e licemerije na kvadrat ili lazenje na kvadrat...vistina nikako ne e. Изменето од Templarius - 24.Февруари.2008 во 22:49 |
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Give me your secrets
Bring me a sign Give me a reason To walk the fire See another dawn Through our son's eyes You give me a reason To walk the fire. |
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efendija
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Хммммммм,...............ПУСТО ТУРСКО (Македонска народна изрека)
Очигледно е дека многу ве боли да си признаете дека муслиманската нога секаде каде што стапнала носела препород,цивилизација,култура,просперитет,бериќет итн....за разлика од Рисјанската. Ве разбирам,потполно ве разбирам,не случајно е речено дека ВИСТИНАТА БОЛИ! |
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"Zadovolen sum Allah da mi bide Gospod,Muhammed pejgamber a Islamot vera"
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Zdravko81
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KAKO EDNASH NE SE UMORIVTE OD NASILSTVOTO. GO PROPUSHTATE NAVAZNOTO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! |
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Templarius
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Kako odogovr na tvojeto pisuvanje kade za merodavni zemas isecoci od novini jas ti gi citiram stihovite od k*ranot koi se direktno povrzani so nasilstvoto i mecot na islamot..
[2.178] O you who believe! retaliation is prescribed for you in the matter of the slain, the free for the free, and the slave for the slave, and the female for the female, but if any remission is made to any one by his (aggrieved) brother, then prosecution (for the bloodwit) should be made according to usage, and payment should be made to him in a good manner; this is an alleviation from your Lord and a mercy; so whoever exceeds the limit after this he shall have a painful chastisement. [2.179] And there is life for you in (the law of) retaliation, O men of understanding, that you may guard yourselves. K 2:190-191 Set 2, Count 3+4 [2.190] And fight in the way of Allah with those who fight with you, and do not exceed the limits, surely Allah does not love those who exceed the limits. [2.191] And kill them wherever you find them, and drive them out from whence they drove you out, and persecution is severer than slaughter, and do not fight with them at the Sacred Mosque until they fight with you in it, but if they do fight you, then slay them; such is the recompense of the unbelievers. K 2:193-194 Set 3, Count 5+6 [2.193] And fight with them until there is no persecution, and religion should be only for Allah, but if they desist, then there should be no hostility except against the oppressors. [2.194] The Sacred month for the sacred month and all sacred things are (under the law of) retaliation; whoever then acts aggressively against you, inflict injury on him according to the injury he has inflicted on you and be careful (of your duty) to Allah and know that Allah is with those who guard (against evil). K 2:216-218 Set 4, Count 7-9 [2.216] Fighting is enjoined on you, and it is an object of dislike to you; and it may be that you dislike a thing while it is good for you, and it may be that you love a thing while it is evil for you, and Allah knows, while you do not know. [2.217] They ask you concerning the sacred month about fighting in it. Say: Fighting in it is a grave matter, and hindering (men) from Allah's way and denying Him, and (hindering men from) the Sacred Mosque and turning its people out of it, are still graver with Allah, and persecution is graver than slaughter; and they will not cease fighting with you until they turn you back from your religion, if they can; and whoever of you turns back from his religion, then he dies while an unbeliever—these it is whose works shall go for nothing in this world and the hereafter, and they are the inmates of the fire; therein they shall abide. [2.218] Surely those who believed and those who fled (their home) and strove hard in the way of Allah these hope for the mercy of Allah and Allah is Forgiving, Merciful. K 2:244 Set 5, Count 10 And fight in the way of Allah, and know that Allah is Hearing, Knowing. K 3:121-126 Set 6, Count 11-16 [3.121] And when you did go forth early in the morning from your family to lodge the believers in encampments for war and Allah is Hearing, Knowing. [3.122] When two parties from among you had determined that they should show cowardice [about Jihad], and Allah was the guardian of them both, and in Allah should the believers trust. [3.123] And Allah did certainly assist you at [the Battle of] Badr when you were weak; be careful of (your duty to) Allah then, that you may give thanks. [3.124] When you said to the believers: Does it not suffice you that your Lord should assist you with three thousand of the angels sent down? [3.125] Yea! if you remain patient and are on your guard, and they come upon you in a headlong manner, your Lord will assist you with five thousand of the havoc-making angels. [3.126] And Allah did not make it but as good news for you, and that your hearts might be at ease thereby, and victory is only from Allah, the Mighty, the Wise. K 3:140-143 Set 7, Count 17-20 [3.140] If a wound has afflicted you (at [the Battle of] Uhud), a wound like it has also afflicted the (unbelieving) people; and We bring these days to men by turns, and that Allah may know those who believe and take witnesses from among you; and Allah does not love the unjust. [3.141] And that He [Allah] may purge those who believe and deprive the unbelievers of blessings.[3.142] Yusuf Ali: Did ye think that ye would enter Heaven without God testing those of you who fought hard (in His Cause) and remained steadfast? [3.143] Pickthall: And verily ye used to wish for death before ye met it (in the field). Now ye have seen it [death] with your eyes! K 3:146 Set 8, Count 21 Yusuf Ali: How many of the prophets fought (in Allah's way) [Jihad], and with them (fought) large bands of godly men? But they never lost heart if they met with disaster in Allah's way [lost a battle], nor did they weaken (in will) nor give in. And Allah loves those who are firm and steadfast [in Jihad]. K 3:152-158 Set 9, Count 22-28 [3.152] And certainly Allah made good to you His promise when you slew them by His [Allah's] permission [during a Jihad battle], until when you became weak-hearted and disputed about the affair and disobeyed after He [Allah] had shown you that which you loved; of you were some who desired this world and of you were some who desired the hereafter; then He [Allah] turned you away from them that He might try you; and He has certainly pardoned you, and Allah is Gracious to the believers. [3.153] Pickthall: When ye climbed (the hill) and paid no heed to anyone, while the messenger, in your rear, was calling you (to fight). Therefore He rewarded you grief for (his) grief, that (He might teach) you not to sorrow either for that which ye missed [war spoils] or for that which befell you. Allah is informed of what ye do. [3.154] Then after sorrow He sent down security upon you, a calm coming upon a party of you, and (there was) another party whom their own souls had rendered anxious; they entertained about Allah thoughts of ignorance quite unjustly, saying: We have no hand in the affair. Say: Surely the affair is wholly (in the hands) of Allah. They conceal within their souls what they would not reveal to you. They say: Had we any hand in the affair, we would not have been slain here [in a Jihad battle]. Say: Had you remained in your houses, those for whom slaughter was ordained [in a Jihad battle] would certainly have gone forth to the places where they would be slain, and that Allah might test what was in your breasts and that He might purge what was in your hearts; and Allah knows what is in the breasts. [3.155] (As for) those of you who turned back on the day when the two armies met, only the Satan sought to cause them to make a slip on account of some deeds they had done, and certainly Allah has pardoned them; surely Allah is Forgiving, Forbearing. [3.156] O you who believe! be not like those who disbelieve and say of their brethren when they travel in the earth or engage in fighting: Had they been with us, they would not have died and they would not have been slain; so Allah makes this to be an intense regret in their hearts; and Allah gives life and causes death and Allah sees what you do. [3.157] And if you are slain in the way of Allah or you die, certainly forgiveness from Allah and mercy is better than what they amass [what those who stay home from Jihad receive—no booty and no perks in heaven]. [3.158] And if indeed you die or you are slain, certainly to Allah shall you be gathered together. K 3:165-167 Set 10, Count 29-31 [3.165] What! when a misfortune befell you, and you [Muslims] had certainly afflicted (the unbelievers) with twice as much [with Jihad], you began to say: Whence is this? Say: It is from yourselves; surely Allah has power over all things. [3.166] And what befell you on the day when the two armies met ([the Battle of] Uhud) was with Allah's knowledge, and that He might know the believers. [3.167] And that He might know the hypocrites; and it was said to them: Come, fight in Allah's way, or defend yourselves. They said: If we knew fighting, we would certainly have followed you. They were on that day much nearer to unbelief than to belief. They say with their mouths what is not in their hearts, and Allah best knows what they conceal. K 3:169 Set 11, Count 32 And reckon not those who are killed in Allah's way as dead; nay, they are alive (and) are provided sustenance from their Lord [meaning they are enjoying their 72 virgins in heaven]; K 3:172-173 Set 12, Count 33+34 [3.172] (As for) those who responded (at [the Battle of] Uhud) to the call of Allah and the Apostle after a wound had befallen them, those among them who do good (to others) and guard (against evil) shall have a great reward. [3.173] Those to whom the people said: Surely men have gathered against you [in battle], therefore fear them, but this increased their faith, and they said: Allah is sufficient for us and most excellent is the Protector. K 3:195 Set 13, Count 35 So their Lord accepted their prayer: That I will not waste the work of a worker among you, whether male or female, the one of you being from the other; they, therefore, who fled and were turned out of their homes and persecuted in My way and who fought and were slain, I will most certainly cover their evil deeds, and I will most certainly make them enter gardens beneath which rivers flow; a reward from Allah, and with Allah is yet better reward. K 4:071-072 Set 14, Count 36+37 [4.71] O you who believe! take your precaution, then go forth in detachments or go forth in a body [to war]. [4.72] And surely among you is he who would certainly hang back [from Jihad]! If then a misfortune befalls you he says: Surely Allah conferred a benefit on me that I was not present with them [in Jihad]. K 4:074-077 Set 15, Count 38-41 [4.74] Therefore let those fight in the way of Allah, who sell this world's life for the hereafter; and whoever fights in the way of Allah, then be he slain or be he victorious, We shall grant him a mighty reward. [4.75] And what reason have you that you should not fight in the way of Allah and of the weak among the men and the women and the children, (of) those who say: Our Lord! cause us to go forth from this town, whose people are oppressors, and give us from Thee a guardian and give us from Thee a helper. [4.76] Those who believe fight in the way of Allah, and those who disbelieve fight in the way of the Satan. Fight therefore against the friends of the Satan; surely the strategy of the Satan is weak. [4.77] Have you not seen those to whom it was said: Withhold your hands, and keep up prayer and pay the poor-rate; but when fighting is prescribed for them, lo! a party of them fear men as they ought to have feared Allah, or (even) with a greater fear, and say: Our Lord! why hast Thou ordained fighting for us? Wherefore didst Thou not grant us a delay to a near end? Say: The provision of this world is short, and the hereafter is better for him who guards (against evil); and you shall not be wronged the husk of a date stone. K 4:084 Set 16, Count 42 Fight then in Allah's way; this is not imposed on you except in relation to yourself, and rouse the believers to ardor maybe Allah will restrain the fighting of those who disbelieve and Allah is strongest in prowess and strongest to give an exemplary punishment. K 4:089-091 Set 17, Count 43-45 [4.89] They desire that you should disbelieve as they have disbelieved, so that you might be (all) alike; therefore take not from among them friends until they fly (their homes) in Allah's way; but if they turn back [to their homes], then seize them and kill them wherever you find them, and take not from among them a friend or a helper. [4.90] Except those who reach a people between whom and you there is an alliance, or who come to you, their hearts shrinking from fighting you or fighting their own people; and if Allah had pleased, He would have given them power over you, so that they should have certainly fought you; therefore if they withdraw from you and do not fight you and offer you peace, then Allah has not given you a way against them [Allah supposedly does not allow Muslims to fight people friendly to Muslims]. [4.91] You will find others who desire that they should be safe from you and secure from their own people; as often as they are sent back to the mischief they get thrown into it headlong; therefore if they do not withdraw from you, and (do not) offer you peace and restrain their hands, then seize them and kill them wherever you find them; and against these We have given you a clear authority. K 4:094-095 Set 18, Count 46+47 [4.94] O you who believe! when you go to war in Allah's way, make investigation, and do not say to any one who offers you peace: You are not a believer. Do you seek goods of this world's life! [Meaning that Muslim ought not say someone is a non-Muslim just to plunder him.] But with Allah there are abundant gains; you too were such before, then Allah conferred a benefit on you; therefore make investigation; surely Allah is aware of what you do. [4.95] The holders back from among the believers, not having any injury, and those who strive hard [Jihad] in Allah's way with their property and their persons are not equal; Allah has made the strivers with their property and their persons to excel the holders back a (high) degree, and to each (class) Allah has promised good; and Allah shall grant to the strivers [i.e., Jihadist] above the holders back a mighty reward: K 4:100-104 Set 19, Count 48-52 [4.100] And whoever flies in Allah's way [forsakes his home to fight in Jihad], he will find in the earth many a place of refuge and abundant resources, and whoever goes forth from his house flying to Allah and His Apostle, and then death overtakes him [in Jihad], his reward is indeed with Allah and Allah is Forgiving, Merciful. [4.101] Rodwell: And when ye go forth to war in the land, it shall be no crime in you to cut short your prayers, if ye fear lest the infidels come upon you; Verily, the infidels are your undoubted enemies! [4.102] And when you are among them and keep up the prayer for them, let a party of them stand up with you, and let them take their arms; then when they have prostrated themselves let them go to your rear, and let another party who have not prayed come forward and pray with you, and let them take their precautions and their arms; (for) those who disbelieve desire that you may be careless of your arms and your luggage, so that they may then turn upon you with a sudden united attack, and there is no blame on you, if you are annoyed with rain or if you are sick, that you lay down your arms, and take your precautions; surely Allah has prepared a disgraceful chastisement for the unbelievers. [4.103] Khalifa: Once you complete your Contact Prayer (Salat), you shall remember GOD while standing, sitting, or lying down. Once the war is over, you shall observe the Contact Prayers (Salat); the Contact Prayers (Salat) are decreed for the believers at specific times. [4.104] And be not weak hearted in pursuit of the enemy; if you suffer pain, then surely they (too) suffer pain as you suffer pain, and you hope from Allah what they do not hope; and Allah is Knowing, Wise. K 4:141 Set 20, Count 53 Sher Ali: Those who await your ruin. If you have a victory [in Jihad] from Allah, they say, ‘Were we not with you?’ And if the disbelievers have a share of it, they say to them, ‘Did we not on a previous occasion get the better of you and save you from the believers?’ Allah will judge between you on the day of Resurrection; and Allah will not grant the disbelievers a way to prevail against the believers. K 5:033 Set 21, Count 54 The punishment of those who wage war against Allah and His apostle and strive to make mischief in the land is only this, that they should be murdered or crucified or their hands and their feet should be cut off on opposite sides or they should be imprisoned [Pickthall and Yusuf Ali have "exiled" rather than "imprisoned"]; this shall be as a disgrace for them in this world, and in the hereafter they shall have a grievous chastisement, K 5:035 Set 22, Count 55 O you who believe! be careful of (your duty to) Allah and seek means of nearness to Him and strive hard [at Jihad] in His way that you may be successful. K 5:082 Set 23, Count 56 Certainly you will find the most violent of people in enmity for those who believe (to be) the Jews [compare " with "whenever Jews kindle fire for war, Allah [Muslims] puts it out" (K 005:064)] and those who are polytheists [while they are converted to Islam on pain of death]... K 8:001 Set 24, Count 57 Pickthall: They ask thee (O Muhammad) of the spoils of war. Say: The spoils of war belong to Allah and the messenger, so keep your duty to Allah, and adjust the matter of your difference, and obey Allah and His messenger, if ye are (true) believers. K 8:005 Set 25, Count 58 Even as your Lord caused you to go forth from your house with the truth, though a party of the believers were surely averse; K 8:007 Set 26, Count 59 Yusuf Ali: Behold! Allah promised you one of the two (enemy) parties, that it should be yours: Ye wished that the one unarmed should be yours, but Allah willed to justify the Truth according to His words and to cut off the roots of the Unbelievers; K 8:009-010 Set 27, Count 60+61 [8.9]When you sought aid from your Lord [at the Battle of Badr], so He answered you: I will assist you [in Jihad] with a thousand of the angels following one another [see K 008:012]. [8.10] And Allah only gave it as a good news and that your hearts might be at ease thereby; and victory is only from Allah; surely Allah is Mighty, Wise. K 8:012 Set 28, Count 62 When your Lord revealed to the angels: I am with you, therefore make firm those who believe. I will cast terror into the hearts of those who disbelieve. Therefore strike off their heads and strike off every fingertip of them. K 8:015-017 Set 29, Count 63-65 [8.15] O you who believe! when you meet those who disbelieve marching for war, then turn not your backs to them. [8.16] And whoever shall turn his back to them on that day—unless he turn aside for the sake of fighting or withdraws to a company—then he, indeed, becomes deserving of Allah's wrath, and his abode is hell; and an evil destination shall it be. [8.17] So you did not slay them, but it was Allah Who slew them, and you did not smite when you smote (the enemy), but it was Allah Who smote [Allah gets the credit for Jihad], and that He might confer upon the believers a good gift from Himself; surely Allah is Hearing, Knowing. K 8:039-048 Set 30, Count 66-75 [8.39] Shakir: And fight with them until there is no more persecution and religion should be only for Allah; but if they desist, then surely Allah sees what they do. [8.40] Yusuf Ali: If they [unbelievers] refuse [to stop fighting], be sure that God is your Protector—the best to protect and the best to help. [8.41] Shakir: And know that whatever thing [loot] you gain, a fifth of it is for Allah and for the Apostle and for the near of kin and the orphans and the needy and the wayfarer, if you believe in Allah and in that which We revealed to Our servant, on the day of distinction, the day on which the two parties met [in a Jihad versus anti-Jihad battle]; and Allah has power over all things. [8.42] When you were on the nearer side (of the valley) and they were on the farthest side, while the caravan was in a lower place than you [the Makkan caravan the Muslims robbed]; and if you had mutually made an appointment, you would certainly have broken away from the appointment, but—in order that Allah might bring about a matter which was to be done, that he who would perish might perish by clear proof [bring success to Muslims engaged in robbing a caravan near Badr against all the odds], and he who would live might live by clear proof; and most surely Allah is Hearing, Knowing; [8.43] When Allah showed them [the Makkans] to you in your dream as few [fighters]; and if He had shown them [the Makkans] to you as many [fighters] you would certainly have become weak-hearted [i.e., hearts. See the similar discussion in K 002:249 about how a smaller army can defeat a larger army] and you would have disputed about the matter, but Allah saved (you); surely He is the Knower of what is in the breasts. [8.44] And when He showed them to you, when you met, as few [fighters] in your eyes and He made you to appear little [few fighters] in their eyes, in order that Allah might bring about a matter which was to be done [a Jihad versus anti-Jihad battle brought on by overconfidence in each side], and to Allah are all affairs returned. [8.45] O you who believe! when you meet a party [in battle], then be firm, and remember Allah much, that you may be successful. [8.46] And obey Allah and His Apostle and do not quarrel for then you will be weak in hearts [demoralized] and your power [to execute Jihad] will depart, and be patient; surely Allah is with the patient. [8.47] And be not like those [Makkans] who came forth from their homes [in an anti-Jihad War on Islamic terrorism] in great exultation and to be seen of men, and (who) turn away from the way of Allah, and Allah comprehends what they do. [8.48] And when the Satan made their works fair seeming to them, and [Satan] said [to the Makkans]: No one can overcome you this day, and surely I [Satan] am your protector: but when the two parties [Muslims versus Makkans] came in sight of each other he [Satan] turned upon his heels, and [Satan] said: Surely I am clear of you [the Makkans], surely I see what you do not see [Allah's angels], surely I fear Allah; and Allah is severe in requiting (evil). K 8:057-060 Set 31, Count 76-79 Pickthall: [8.57] If thou come on them in the war, deal with them so as to strike fear in those who are behind them, that haply they may remember. [8.58] Khalifa: When you are betrayed by a group of people, you shall mobilize against them in the same manner. GOD does not love the betrayers. [8.59] Shakir: And let not those who disbelieve think that they shall come in first; surely they will not escape. [8.60] And prepare against them what force you can and horses tied at the frontier, to frighten thereby the enemy of Allah and your enemy and others besides them, whom you do not know (but) Allah knows them; and whatever thing you will spend in Allah's way [for Jihad], it will be paid back to you fully and you shall not be dealt with unjustly. K 8:065-075 Set 32, Count 80-90 [8.65] O Prophet! urge the believers to war; if there are twenty patient ones of you they shall overcome two hundred, and if there are a hundred of you they shall overcome a thousand of those who disbelieve, because they are a people who do not understand [in other words, "do not understand totalitarian ideologies like Islam"]. [8.66] For the present Allah has made light your burden, and He knows that there is weakness in you; so if there are a hundred patient ones of you they shall overcome two hundred, and if there are a thousand they shall overcome two thousand by Allah's permission, and Allah is with the patient. [8.67] It is not fit for a prophet that he should take captives unless he has fought and triumphed in the land; you desire the frail goods [i.e., ransom money] of this world, while Allah desires (for you) the hereafter; and Allah is Mighty, Wise. [8.68] Had it not been for a previous ordainment [i.e., the revelation of K 008:067] from God, a severe penalty would have reached you for the (ransom) that you took [or better, "would have taken"]. [8.69] Eat then of the lawful and good (things) which you have acquired in war [war spoils], and be careful of (your duty to) Allah; surely Allah is Forgiving, Merciful. [8.70] O Prophet! say to those of the captives [non-Muslims] who are in your hands: If Allah knows anything good in your hearts, He will give to you better than that which has been taken away from you [in Jihad] and will forgive you, and Allah is Forgiving, Merciful. [8.71] Yusuf Ali: But if they have treacherous designs against thee, (O Apostle!) , they have already been in treason against God, and so hath [has] He [Allah] given (thee) power over them. And God so He Who hath (full) knowledge and wisdom. [8.72] Yusuf Ali: Those who believed, and adopted exile, and fought for the Faith, with their property and their persons, in the cause of God, as well as those who gave (them) asylum and aid, - these are (all) friends and protectors, one of another. As to those who believed but came not into exile, ye [you] owe no duty of protection to them until they come into exile; but if they seek your aid in religion, it is your duty to help them, except against a people with whom ye have a treaty of mutual alliance. And (remember) God seeth [sees] all that ye do. [8.73] Yusuf Ali: The Unbelievers are protectors, one of another: Unless ye do this, (protect each other), there would be tumult and oppression on earth, and great mischief. [8.74] Yusuf Ali: Those who believe, and adopt exile, and fight for the Faith, in the cause of God as well as those who give (them) asylum and aid, - these are (all) in very truth the Believers: for them is the forgiveness of sins and a provision most generous. [8.75] Yusuf Ali: And those who accept Faith subsequently, and adopt exile, and fight for the Faith in your company,—they are of you. But kindred by blood have prior rights against each other in the Book of God. Verily God is well acquainted with all things. K 9:005 Set 33, Count 91 So when the sacred months have passed away, then slay the idolaters wherever you find them, and take them captives and besiege them and lie in wait for them in every ambush, then if they repent and keep up prayer and pay the poor-rate, leave their way free to them; surely Allah is Forgiving, Merciful. K 9:012-014 Set 34, Count 92-94 [9.12] And if they break their oaths after their agreement and (openly) revile your religion, then fight the leaders of unbelief—surely their oaths are nothing—so that they may desist. [9.13] What! will you not fight a people who broke their oaths and aimed at the expulsion of the Apostle, and they attacked you first; do you fear them? But Allah is most deserving that you should fear Him, if you are believers. [9.14] Fight them, Allah will punish them by your hands and bring them to disgrace, and assist you against them and heal the hearts of a believing people. K 9:016 Set 35, Count 95 What! do you think that you will be left alone while Allah has not yet known those of you who have struggled hard [Jihad] and have not taken any one as an adherent besides Allah and His Apostle and the believers; and Allah is aware of what you do. K 9:019-020 Set 36, Count 96+97 [9.19] What! do you make (one who undertakes) the giving of drink to the pilgrims and the guarding of the Sacred Mosque like him who believes in Allah and the latter day and strives hard in Allah's way [Jihad]? They are not equal with Allah; and Allah does not guide the unjust people. [9.20] Those who believed and fled (their homes), and strove hard [Jihad] in Allah's way with their property and their souls, are much higher in rank with Allah; and those are they who are the achievers (of their objects). K 9:024-026 Set 37, Count 98-100 [9.24] Say: If your fathers and your sons and your brethren and your mates and your kinsfolk and property which you have acquired, and the slackness of trade which you fear and dwellings which you like, are dearer to you than Allah and His Apostle and striving in His way [Jihad]:, then wait till Allah brings about His command [to go on Jihad]: and Allah does not guide the transgressing people. [9.25] Certainly Allah helped you in many battlefields and on the day of [the Battle of] Hunain, when your great numbers made you vain, but they availed you nothing and the earth became strait to you notwithstanding its spaciousness, then you turned back retreating. [9.26] Then Allah sent down His tranquility upon His Apostle and upon the believers, and sent down hosts which you did not see, and chastised those who disbelieved [Muhammad gives credit to angels and Allah for the actions of Jihadists], and that is the reward of the unbelievers. K 9:029 Set 38, Count 101 Fight those who do not believe in Allah, nor in the latter day, nor do they prohibit what Allah and His Apostle have prohibited, nor follow the religion of truth, out of those who have been given the Book, until they pay the tax in acknowledgment of superiority and they are in a state of subjection. K 9:036 Set 39, Count 102 Surely the number of months with Allah is twelve months in Allah's ordinance since the day when He created the heavens and the earth, of these four being sacred; that is the right reckoning; therefore be not unjust to yourselves regarding them, and fight the polytheists all together as they fight you all together; and know that Allah is with those who guard (against evil). K 9:038-039 Set 40, Count 103+104 [9.38] O you who believe! What (excuse) have you that when it is said to you: Go forth in Allah's way [to Jihad], you should incline heavily to earth; are you contented with this world's life instead of the hereafter? But the provision of this world's life compared with the hereafter is but little. [9.38] If you do not go forth [to go on Jihad], He will chastise you with a painful chastisement and bring in your place a people other than you [to go on Jihad], and you will do Him no harm; and Allah has power over all things. K 9:041 Set 41, Count 105 They do not ask leave of you who believe in Allah and the latter day (to stay away) from striving hard with their property and their persons [Jihad], and Allah knows those who guard (against evil). K 9:044 Set 42, Count 106 They do not ask leave of you who believe in Allah and the latter day (to stay away) from striving hard [Jihad] with their property and their persons, and Allah knows those who guard (against evil). K 9:052 Set 43, Count 107 Say: Do you await for us but one of two most excellent things? And we await for you that Allah will afflict you with punishment from Himself or by our hands. So wait; we too will wait with you. K 9:073 Set 44, Count 108 O Prophet! strive hard [Jihad] against the unbelievers and the hypocrites and be unyielding to them; and their abode is hell, and evil is the destination. K 9:081 Set 45, Count 109 Those who were left behind were glad on account of their sitting behind Allah's Apostle and they were averse from striving m Allah's way [Jihad] with their property and their persons, and said: Do not go forth [to Jihad] in the heat. Say: The fire of hell is much severe in heat. Would that they understood (it). K 9:083 Set 46, Count 110 Therefore if Allah brings you back to a party of them and then they ask your permission to go forth, say: By no means shall you ever go forth with me and by no means shall you fight an enemy with me [in Jihad]; surely you chose to sit the first time, therefore sit (now) with those who remain behind. K 9:086 Set 47, Count 111 And whenever a chapter is revealed, saying: Believe in Allah and strive hard [in Jihad] along with His Apostle, those having ampleness of means ask permission of you and say: Leave us (behind), that we may be with those who sit. K 9:088 Set 48, Count 112 But the Apostle and those who believe with him strive hard [in Jihad] with their property and their persons; and these it is who shall have the good things and these it is who shall be successful. K 9:092 Set 49, Count 113 Yusuf Ali: Nor (is there blame) on those who came to thee to be provided with mounts [saddles on which to go to war], and when thou said, "I can find no mounts for you," they turned back, their eyes streaming with tears of grief that they had no resources wherewith to provide the expenses [to go on Jihad]. K 9:111 Set 50, Count 114 Surely Allah has bought of the believers their persons and their property for this, that they shall have the garden; they fight in Allah's way, so they slay and are slain; a promise which is binding on Him in the Taurat and the Injeel and the Quran; and who is more faithful to his covenant than Allah? Rejoice therefore in the pledge which you have made; and that is the mighty achievement. K 9:120 Set 51, Count 115 Yusuf Ali: It was not fitting for the people of Madina and the Bedouin Arabs of the neighborhood, to refuse to follow Allah's Messenger, nor to prefer their own lives to his: because nothing could they suffer or do, but was reckoned to their credit as a deed of righteousness,- whether they suffered thirst, or fatigue, or hunger, in the cause of Allah [while on a march to Jihad], or trod paths to raise the ire of the Unbelievers [invade their territory], or received any injury whatever from an enemy [during a Jihad battle]: for Allah suffers not the reward to be lost of those who do good; K 9:122-123 Set 52, Count 116+117 [9.122] Pickthall: And the believers should not all go out to fight. Of every troop of them, a party only should go forth, that they (who are left behind) may gain sound knowledge in religion, and that they may warn their folk when they return to them, so that they may beware. [9.123] O you who believe! fight those of the unbelievers who are near to you and let them find in you hardness; and know that Allah is with those who guard (against evil). K 16:110 Set 53, Count 118 Yusuf Ali: But verily thy Lord,- to those who leave their homes after trials and persecutions,- and who thereafter strive and fight for the faith and patiently persevere,- Thy Lord, after all this is oft-forgiving, Most Merciful. K 22:039 Set 54, Count 119 Permission (to fight) is given to those upon whom war is made because they are oppressed, and most surely Allah is well able to assist them; K 22:058 Set 55, Count 120 Sher Ali: And those who leave their homes for the cause of Allah, and are then slain or die, Allah will, surely, provide for them a goodly provision. And, surely, Allah is the Best of providers. K 22:078 Set 56, Count 121 And strive hard [in Jihad] in (the way of) Allah, (such) a striving a is due to Him; He has chosen you and has not laid upon you a hardship in religion; the faith of your father Ibrahim; He named you Muslims before and in this, that the Messenger may be a bearer of witness to you, and you may be bearers of witness to the people; therefore keep up prayer and pay the poor-rate and hold fast by Allah; He is your Guardian; how excellent the Guardian and how excellent the Helper! K 24:053 Set 57, Count 122 And they swear by Allah with the most energetic of their oaths that if you command them they would certainly go forth [to Jihad (see K 024:055)]. Say: Swear not; reasonable obedience (is desired); surely Allah is aware of what you do. K 24:055 Set 58, Count 123 Allah has promised to those of you who believe and do good that He will most certainly make them rulers in the earth [as a reward for going on Jihad (see K 024:053)] as He made rulers those before them, and that He will most certainly establish for them their religion which He has chosen for them, and that He will most certainly, after their fear, give them security in exchange; they shall serve Me, not associating aught with Me; and whoever is ungrateful after this, these it is who are the transgressors. K 25:052 Set 59, Count 124 Palmer: So obey not the unbelievers and fight strenuously with them in many a strenuous fight. K 29:006 Set 60, Count 125 And whoever strives hard [in Jihad], he strives only for his own soul; most surely Allah is Self-sufficient, above (need of) the worlds. K 29:069 Set 61, Count 126 And (as for) those who strive hard [in Jihad] for Us [Allah], We will most certainly guide them in Our ways; and Allah is most surely with the doers of good. K 33:015 Set 62, Count 127 Pickthall: And verily they had already sworn unto Allah that they would not turn their backs (to the foe) [in Jihad battle]. An oath to Allah must be answered for. K 33:018 Set 63, Count 128 Allah knows indeed those among you who hinder others and those who say to their brethren: Come to us; and they come not to the fight [Jihad] but a little, K 33:020 Set 64, Count 129 They think the allies are not gone, and if the allies should come (again) they would fain [gladly] be in the deserts with the desert Arabs asking for news about you, and if they were among you they would not fight save a little [in Jihad]. K 33:023 Set 65, Count 130 Pickthall: Of the believers are men who are true to that which they covenanted with Allah. Some of them have paid their vow by death (in battle), and some of them still are waiting; and they have not altered in the least. K 33:25-27 Set 66, Count 131-133 [33.25] And Allah turned back the unbelievers in their rage; they did not obtain any advantage, and Allah sufficed the believers in fighting; and Allah is Strong, Mighty. [33.26] And He drove down those of the followers of the Book who backed them from their fortresses and He cast awe into their hearts; some [Jews] you killed and you took captive another part. [33.27] And He made you heirs to their [Jewish] land and their dwellings and their property, and (to) a land which you have not yet trodden, and Allah has power over all things. K 33:050 Set 67, Count 134 O Prophet! surely We have made lawful to you your wives whom you have given their dowries, and those [captive women] whom your right hand possesses out of those whom Allah has given to you as prisoners of war, and the daughters of your paternal uncles and the daughters of your paternal aunts, and the daughters of your maternal uncles and the daughters of your maternal aunts who fled with you; and a believing woman if she gave herself to the Prophet, if the Prophet desired to marry her—specially for you, not for the (rest of) believers; We know what We have ordained for them concerning their wives and those whom their right hands possess in order that no blame may attach to you; and Allah is Forgiving, Merciful. K 42:039 Set 68, Count 135 Sale: ...and who, when an injury is done them, avenge themselves... K 47:004 Set 69, Count 136 So when you meet in battle those who disbelieve, then smite the necks until when you have overcome them, then make (them) prisoners, and afterwards either set them free as a favor or let them ransom (themselves) until the war terminates. That (shall be so); and if Allah had pleased He would certainly have exacted what is due from them, but that He may try some of you by means of others; and (as for) those who are slain in the way of Allah, He will by no means allow their deeds to perish. K 47:020 Set 70, Count 137 And those who believe say: Why has not a chapter been revealed? But when a decisive chapter is revealed, and fighting [allusion to Jihad] is mentioned therein you see those in whose hearts is a disease look to you with the look of one fainting because of death. Woe to them then! K 47:035 Set 71, Count 138 Rodwell: Be not fainthearted then; and invite not the infidels to peace when ye have the upper hand: for God is with you, and will not defraud you of the recompense of your works... K 48:15-24 Set 72, Count 139-148 [48.15] Pickthall: Those who were left behind will say, when ye set forth to capture booty: Let us go with you. They fain would change the verdict of Allah. Say (unto them, O Muhammad): Ye shall not go with us. Thus hath Allah said beforehand. Then they will say: Ye are envious of us. Nay, but they understand not, save a little. [48.16] Shakir: Say to those of the dwellers of the desert who were left behind: You shall soon be invited (to fight) against a people possessing mighty prowess; you will fight against them until they submit; then if you obey, Allah will grant you a good reward [booty]; and if you turn back as you turned back before, He will punish you with a painful punishment. [48.17] Pickthall: There is no blame for the blind, nor is there blame for the lame, nor is there blame for the sick (that they go not forth to war). And whoso obeyeth Allah and His messenger [by going on Jihad], He will make him enter Gardens underneath which rivers flow; and whoso turneth back [from Jihad], him will He punish with a painful doom. [48.18] Certainly Allah was well pleased with the believers when they swore allegiance to you under the tree, and He knew what was in their hearts, so He sent down tranquility on them and rewarded them with a near victory, [48.19] And much booty that they will capture. Allah is ever Mighty, Wise. [48.20] Allah promised you many acquisitions which you will take, then He hastened on this one for you and held back the hands of men from you, and that it may be a sign for the believers and that He may guide you on a right path. [48.21] Sale: And [he also promiseth you] other [spoils], which ye have not [yet] been able [to take]: But now hath God encompassed them [for you]; and God is almighty. [48.22] And if those who disbelieve fight with you, they would certainly turn (their) backs, then they would not find any protector or a helper. [48.23] Such [i.e., the Jihad mentioned the previous verse] has been the course [practice] of Allah that has indeed run before, and you shall not find a change in Allah’s course. [48.24] And He [Allah] it is Who held back their hands from you and your hands from them [in Jihad] in the valley of Mecca after He had given you victory over them; and Allah is Seeing what you do. K 49:015 Set 73, Count 149 Sale: Verily the true believers [are] those only who believe in God and his apostle, and afterwards doubt not; and who employ their substance and their persons in the defense of God's true religion: These are they who speak sincerely. K 59:002 Set 74, Count 150 He it is Who caused those who disbelieved of the followers of the Book to go forth from their homes at the first banishment you did not think that they would go forth, while they were certain that their fortresses would defend them against Allah; but Allah came to them whence they did not expect, and cast terror into their hearts; they demolished their houses with their own hands and the hands of the believers [i.e. Muslims demolished Jewish homes]; therefore take a lesson, O you who have eyes! K 59:5-8 Set 75, Count 151-154 Pickthall:[59.5] Whatsoever palm-trees you cut—cut down or left standing on their roots [during a Jihad siege of the Jews at Madina], it was by Allah's leave, in order that He might confound the evil-livers [Jews]. [59.6] And that which Allah gave as spoil unto His messenger from them, you urged not any horse or riding-camel for the sake thereof, but Allah gives His messenger lordship over whom He will. Allah is Able to do all things. [59.7] That which Allah gives as [war] spoil unto His messenger from the people of the townships [Jews], it is for Allah and His messenger and for the near of kin and the orphans and the needy and the wayfarer, that it become not a commodity between the rich among you. And whatsoever [spoils] the messenger gives you, take it. And whatsoever he forbids, abstain (from it). And keep your duty to Allah. Lo! Allah is stern in reprisal. [59.8] And (it is) for the poor fugitives who have been driven out from their homes and their belongings, who seek bounty [war spoils] from Allah and help Allah and His messenger. They are the loyal. K 59:014 Set 76, Count 155 They will not fight against you in a body save in fortified towns or from behind walls; their fighting between them is severe, you may think them as one body, and their hearts are disunited; that is because they are a people who have no sense. K 60:009 Set 77, Count 156 Allah only forbids you respecting those who made war upon you on account of (your) religion [i.e., no fraternizing with the enemy], and drove you forth from your homes and backed up (others) in your expulsion, that you make friends with them, and whoever makes friends with them, these are the unjust. K 61:004 Set 78, Count 157 Surely Allah loves those who fight in His way in ranks as if they were a firm and compact wall. K 61:011 Set 79, Count 158 You shall believe in Allah and His Apostle, and struggle hard in Allah's way [Jihad] with your property and your lives; that is better for you, did you but know! K 61:013 Set 80, Count 159 And yet another (blessing) that you love: help from Allah and a victory [in Jihad] near at hand; and give good news to the believers. K 63:004 Set 81, Count 160 And when you see them, their persons will please you, and If they speak, you will listen to their speech; (they are) as if they were big pieces of wood clad with garments; they think every cry to be against them. They are the enemy, therefore beware of them; may Allah destroy them, whence are they turned back? [This verse speaks of internecine Jihad against Muslims deemed infidels or "hypocrites."] K 64:014 Set 82, Count 161 O you who believe! surely from among your wives and your children there is an enemy to you; therefore beware of them [collaborators with the enemy, especially if the women were once war spoils]; and if you pardon and forbear and forgive, then surely Allah is Forgiving, Merciful. K 66:009 Set 83, Count 162 O Prophet! strive hard against the unbelievers and the hypocrites, and be hard against them; and their abode is hell; and evil is the resort. K 73:020 Set 84, Count 163 Surely your Lord knows that you pass in prayer nearly two-thirds of the night, and (sometimes) half of it, and (sometimes) a third of it, and (also) a party of those with you; and Allah measures the night and the day. He knows that you are not able to do it, so He has turned to you (mercifully), therefore read what is easy of the Quran. He knows that there must be among you sick, and others who travel in the land seeking of the bounty of Allah, and others who fight in Allah's way, therefore read as much of it as is easy (to you), and keep up prayer and pay the poor-rate and offer to Allah a goodly gift, and whatever of good you send on beforehand for yourselves, you will find it with Allah; that is best and greatest in reward; and ask forgiveness of Allah; surely Allah is Forgiving, Merciful. K 76:008 Set 85, Count 164 And they [Muslims] give food out of love for Him [Allah] to the poor and the orphan and the captive [of Jihad]. |
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IV. ДАЛИ ИСЛАМОТ СЕ ШИРЕЛ
СО ПОМОШ НА САБЈА Како тоа вие го нарекувате исламот вера на мирот, кога он е ширен со сабја?! Многу често некои немуслимани тврдат дека исламот не би имал волкав број на следбеници низ целиот свет, а да не е ширен со сила. Во неколку точки, ќе објаснам дека е далеку од тоа, да исламот се ширел со сила. Исламот се ширел со силата на вистината, разумот и логиката. Тоа е целата сила која е одговорна за ширењето на исламот. ИСЛАМОТ ЗНАЧИ МИР Зборот ислам е изведен од зборот селам, што значи мир. Истотака, исламот значи покорување на Алах џ.ш. Тоа значи дека исламот е вера на мирот кој се постигнува низ потполна преданост на волјата на Возвишениот Господар, Алах џ.ш. ПОНЕКОГАШ Е ПОТРЕБНА СИЛА КАКО БИ СЕ ОДРЖАЛ МИРОТ Не е секој човек на планетата Земја спремен за одржување на мирот и хармонијата. Многумина се оние кои најнормално би го загрозиле мирот поради своите лични интереси. Затоа е понекогаш потребана сила да би се воспоставил и одржувал мирот. Поради таа причина имаме полиција, чија примарна задача е спречувањето на криминалците и другите антисоцијални елементи, кои го загрозуваат мирот и хармонијата во друштвото и државата. Исламот пропагира мир. Но во исто време, бара од своите следбеници да се борат против угнетувањето. Борбата против угнетувањето, понекогаш бара употреба на сила. Во исламот, сила смее да се употребува единствено поради спроведување на мир и правда. МИСЛЕЊЕТО НА ИСТОРИЧАРОТ ДЕ ЛЕЈСИ О’ЛЕРИ Најдобриот одговор на заблудата дека исламот е ширен со сабја, дал угледниот историчар, Де Лејси О’Лери, во книгата „ Исламот на крстосница “, на 8 страна,: „ Секако, јасен е историскиот факт, дека легендата за фанатичните муслимани кои хараат по светот, и со сабја го шират исламот, помеѓу поробените народи – е еден од најапсурдните измислени митови кои еден историчар може да ги изговори! “ МУСЛИМАНИТЕ ВЛАДЕЕЛЕ ВО ШПАНИЈА 800 ГОДИНИ Иако муслиманите владееле во Шпанија околу 800 години, никогаш не користеле сабја, т.е. сила, како луѓето би ги конвертирале во ислам. Кога во Шпанија дошле крстоносците, ги избришале муслиманите од сцена. Ниту еден муслиман во Шпанија не смеел јавно да учи езан, повик на намаз. 14 МИЛИОНИ АРАПИ СЕ КОПТИ ХРИСТИЈАНИ Муслиманите владеат во Арабија 1400 години. Некое време владееле Британците, е некое Французите. Но, вкупно, муслиманите владеат со Арабија веќе 1400 години. И покрај тоа, денеска постојат преку 14 милиони Копти, христијани, кои биле христијани со векови наназад. Ако муслиманите користеле сабја во ширењето на верата, не би остантал ниту еден Арап немуслиман. ВО ИНДИЈА ИМА ПРЕКУ 80 % НЕМУСЛИМАНИ Муслиманите владееле во Индија околу 1000 години. Да сакале, имале моќ секој немуслиман во Индија, да го натераат да прими ислам. Денеска, дури 80 % од жителите на Индија не се муслимани. Сите тие немуслимани се жив доказ дека исламот, никогаш не бил ширен со помош на сабја. ИНДОНЕЗИЈА И МАЛЕЗИЈА Индонезија е земја со најголема популација на муслимани во светот. Во Малезија, повеќето жители се муслимани. Јас ве прашува: „Која муслиманска војска некогаш зачекорила во Индонезија и Малезија?! ИСТОЧНИОТ БРЕГ НА АФРИКА Исламот брзо се ширел и по земјите на источна Африка. Зошто некој не се запраша: „ Ако исламот е ширен со сабја, која муслиманска армија престојувала во земјите на источна Африка!?“ ТОМАС КАРЛАЈЛ Познатиот историчар Томас Карлајл, во книгата: „ Хероите и почитувањето на хероите, “ се навраќа на дезинформациите за ширењето на исламот со сабја: „Да, тоа е сабја, навистина! Но, одкаде е таа сабја? Тоа е секое ново мислење, кое во почетокот не е приметно. Се наоѓа во главата на еден човек. Таму се задржува некои време. Само еден човек верува во тоа, само он од целиот свет; само еден човек се кренал против целиот свет. Ако се фати за сабјата и почне да ги пропагира идеите со нејзина помош, нема да постигне ништо. Во целина, идејата се шири сама од себе, колку може....“ ВО ВЕРАТА НЕМА ПРИСИЛА Со кој меч исламот е ширен? Дури и да некои муслимани имале таква намера, не можеле тоа да го направат, затоа што во к*ранот стои, во следниот стих: „ Нема присила во верата, Правиот пат, јасно се разликува од заблудата!“ ( Ел Бекаре: 256 ) МЕЧОТ НА ИНТЕЛЕКТОТ Користениот меч е мечот на интелектот. Тоа е мечот кој ги освојува срцата и душите на луѓето. Чесниот к*ран вели: „ На патот на Господарот свој, мудро и со убави совети повикувај, и со нив на најубав начин расправај! “ ПРОЦЕНТУАЛНИОТ ПОРАСТ НА СВЕТСКИТЕ РЕЛИГИИ 1934 – 1984 ГОДИНА Во Годишникот од 1986 година, стои текст со статистички податоци за ширењето на најпознатите светски религии во текот на изминатите 50 години (1934 – 1984). Овие податоци се најдоа и во магазинот „ Јасна вистина“. На самиот врв на листата, се најде исламот, чиј број на следбеници се зголемил за 235 %, додека бројот на припадниците на христијанството се зголемил за 47 %. Јас ве прашувам: „ Која војна во тој период била причина за премионот на милиони луѓе во ислам?! ИСЛАМОТ Е РЕЛИГИЈАТА КОЈА НАЈБРГУ СЕ ШИРИ ВО АМЕРИКА И ЕВРОПА Денска во Америка, исламот е религија која најбргу се шири. Религијата која најбргу се шири во Европа, е истотака исламот. Која е таа сабја, која ги принудува луѓето по Запад да во така голем број го прифатат исламот?! ДР. ЏОЗЕФ АДАМ ПИРСОН Др. Џозеф Адам Пирсон, еднаш убаво рекол: „ Луѓето кои се грижат дека еден ден, нуклеарното оружје ќе дојде во рацете на Арапите, забораваат дека исламската бомба е веќе фрлена. Падна оној ден кога Мухамед е роден.“ |
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PROUD TO BE A MUSLIM!!!!
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Messenger
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Prvo, na onoj koj ke bide tolku naiven da prifati takov odgovor, deka vo vojna se poagja samo poradi pomosh na nekoj tugjinec, mu go nudam na prodazhba Kameniot most vo Skopje za edna bagatelna cena od $10.000. Zamislete, vashi lugje da ginat samo za da mu pomognete na nekoj da si sedni na prestolot? Za sto? Za da se povlechete potoa nazad iskrvareni, osakateni i da im gi donesete mrtvite tela na vash*te brakja vo nivnite semejstva kade sto gi chekaat taktko, majka, zhena i decata??? Za da mi rechi novopostaveniot kral - "blagodaram"???
Pokazhete mi od istorijata barem eden takov bezumen vladetel koj bi pravel "uslugi" od toj vid. Naprotiv, istorijata veli deka sekoja "pomosh" si ima cena. Najchesto cenata e osvojuvanje teritorii poradi ekspolatacija i zbogatuvanje na "pomagachot". Istoto se sluchilo i togash i site opravduvanja za takvite vojni i vladeenje so "pomognatite" zemji se bajki za deca pred spienje. Изменето од Messenger - 24.Февруари.2008 во 19:22 |
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Truth needs no laws to support it. Throughout history only lies and liars have resorted to the courts to enforce adherence to dogma.
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zidarski
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Ne e odgovoreno efendija - odgovorite se odnesuvaat na periodot na krstonosnite vojni ili na nekakvi objasnuvanja deka podobro im bilo na osvoenite pod islamska uprava, otkolku pred toa.
Prashanjeto e mnogu ednostavno, no nikoj ne go odgovara. Zoshto voopshto osvojuvale, koga toa e zabraneto od k*ranot?! (i ne mi odgovaraj so kontra prashanje za krstonoscite, a so odgovor) Dali Shpanija gi napadnala, ili mozhebi Kipar, ili Sicilija? k*ranot izrichno kazhuva kako da se vojuva i samiot veli deka otkako kje se odbie neprijatelot od sopstvenata teritorija, deka ne treba da se progonuva i da se zavladuva negovata. Objasni mi togash kako nastanale site tie osvojuvanja?! Shpancite gi zamolile arapite da gi osvojat, a potoa krvnichki vojuvale so niv naredni 700 godini? Ili istoto go napravile Vizantijcite? Ili ako eden grad vo Mala Azija pobaral pomosh od niv, dali toa znachi deka i sosedniot grad treba da e pod nivna uprava, iako ne bara da bide?! Kako toa kje go objasnite i koga konechno nekoj od vas kje pochne da gi sfakja rabotite seriozno i chesno? |
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efendija
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Не си во право.На сите прашања е одговорено.Навистина е жално што не сакате да се потрудете да сватете некои работи.Навистина е жално што за вас ниту еден одговор НЕ Е ДОБАР.Навистина е жално што немате никаква доблест пореално да пристапите кон историјата. П.С."Неодговарањето"зборува за тоа дека сосема непотребно е на некој глув да му зборуваш.Ионака нема да те чуе. |
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"Zadovolen sum Allah da mi bide Gospod,Muhammed pejgamber a Islamot vera"
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zidarski
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Shteta shto nema odgovor na ovaa tema i shto se izbegnuva sosema...
Navistina e zhalno shto na forumov si igrame celo vreme na "prashanje - kontra-prashanje", namesto da doagjame do odgovori. No, od druga strana, tokmu neodgovaranjeto zboruva povekje od bilo kakov odgovor. |
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zidarski
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Omer - kako shto rekov - nadvor od kontekst ti e postot! Ne zboruvame za toa shto se sluchilo vo zemjite koi bile zavladeani od muslimanite za vreme na nivnoto vladeenje, a zboruvame za samoto zavladuvanje! Spored k*ranot, spored suri koi bea citirani na forumov mnogu pati, muslimanite ne smeat da zavojuvaat tugji teritorii... no - toa e fakt deka se sluchilo. Toa shto go slusham do sega se samo opravduvanja za toj chin, iako niedno od tie opravduvanja nemaat pochva.
Bidejki mnogu ja sakate logikata, kje vi dadam nekoi logichni objasnuvanja: Vo Shpanija - gi viknal nekoj proteran princ da dojde da mu ja osvojat zemjata, a toa shto celiot narod posle vojuval protiv niv i se bunel na toa osvojuvanje, ne e bitno, bitno bile povikani. Kipar - eh, siguren sum deka gi napadnal so svojata golema vojnichka sila i mokjna mashinerija, pa morale da go osvojat, a verojatno istoto se odnesuva i na Sardinija i Sicilija (mafijashi bile ushte od togash, sigureno). Istoto se odnesuva na osvojuvanjata na Balkanot - nema kako poinaku da se sluchilo - sigurno nekoj gi povikal da dojdat i da go spasat Balkanot od samiot sebe si... Za site ovie raboti ima objasnuvanje deka toa ne se osvojuvanja, tuku samoodbrana?!?!?! Mnogu sakam da znam kako toa Arapite se branele od Shpancite... kako prvi komshii, neli... Seushte nemam dobieno odgovor na ovaa tema koj da e jasen, i so dostojno objasnuvanje - zoshto muslimanite (i toa prvite) gi prekrshile ajetite od k*ranot i trgnale vo osvojuvachki pohod? Ova prashanje se provejuva vo nekolku temi i do sega, od reakciite, so ogled na toa shto muslimanite ne sakaat da zboruvaat na temata i sekogash se lutat koga se postavuva prashanjeto, i se razbira, omilenoto - objavuvaat kontra tema namesto da odgovorat na ovaa, izvlekov nekolku zakluchoci. 1. Ili chlenovite na forumot nemaat dovolno poznavanje od ovaa tematika, ili imaat, no ne znaat kako samite na sebe da si ja objasnat taa kontradikcija koja nastanuva vo istorijata, nasproti toa shto go pishuva vo k*ranot. 2. Nikogash ne sakaat da kritikuvaat nishto shto e muslimansko, bez razlika dali bilo pred 1300 godini ili denes, bez razlika dali e pogreshno ili ne, vazhno shtom e nivno, nema prostor za kritiki i komentari, odnosno, po nivnata logika e ispravno. 3. Verojatno znaat za shto tochno stanuva zbor, no ne sakaat da zboruvaat javno za toa, od strav deka toa mozhe da bide sfateno kako losh moment za islamot vo minatoto, shto e besmisleno spored mene, zatoa shto bash treba da se objasni ovoj fenomen, zatoa shto vaka kako shto e sega postaven, drugata strana dobiva se ponegativno mislenje. 4. Sekogash temite koi se objavuvaat kako kontra, se za da pokazhat "I vie ste takvi". Da, toa e jasno deka krstonoscite bile takvi, i amerikancite denes i shto li ne, no so nachinot na koj ja postavuvate temata, samite pokazhuvate deka "I muslimanite bile takvi", ama naogjate opravduvanje vo toa shto i hristijanite se isti. |
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Templarius
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Jas ne velam deka krstonosnite pohodi ne donele krvoprolevanje naprotiv jas samo sakav da ukazam sto dovelo do tie krstonosni povodi no nekogo toa ne go interesira kako i da e ......
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Bring me a sign Give me a reason To walk the fire See another dawn Through our son's eyes You give me a reason To walk the fire. |
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