Panasonic HMC 150

Dodeka gledav nekoi mislenja za novite Sony kameri naletav na informacii za novata Panasonic HMC-150 koja ima 3 CCD chipa, koristi eftini SDHD karti za snimanje (so 32GB snima 3 chasa neprekinato so najdobar kvalitet i najmala kompresija) ima Leica objektiv koj odi poshiroko od site drugi modeli vo taa klasa, nizok shum, ima HDMI izlez, 2 x XLR audio In, ja koristi novata kompresija AVC-HD koja e poefektna od HDV i gi nema artefektite od HDV pro brzo paniranje na kamerata..

Naidov na interesni komentari i sporedbi, a nekoi do niv mozhete da gi vidite tuka (izvini Aleksandar - angliski jazik):


http://www.dvxuser.com/V6/showthread.php?t=144730

http://www.dvinfo.net//conf/forumdisplay.php?f=165




Onoa sto me iznenadi e deka so najmalata kompresija vo kvalitet gi nadminuva site HDV kameri vo svoja klasa i deka ima verojatno najnizok shum meju niv koga raboti na 720p. Mnogu interesno...

Eve sto veli Barry Green koj go smetaat kako guru za Panasonic kameri:

- I'd put the noise level of the HMC150 squarely up against an EX1 any day. It doesn't look as noiseless as a $48,000 HPX3000, but then again neither does an EX1. But compared to an HD100, XHA1 or HVX200, it looks practically grainless. And certainly far less grainy than film.

- In 720p/24 it looks basically uncompressed. The higher up the scale you go the more you run into the *potential* that the GOP could become overloaded, just like with HDV. But even when it gets to its worst, it never ever looks anything like as bad as HDV can.

- The 1080 will be a little sharper, but the 720 is going to be almost as sharp and less compressed.

- You should be able to burn the raw .mts files directly onto a blu-ray disc and play them on your blu-ray player. Blu-ray players support AVC-HD files.

- Shooting at 60p on this camera will yield slo-mo results if placed in a 24p/30p timeline . With the HMC150 you can get 24p, 30p, 15p and 60p.      

- It feels like a DVX. It's 100 times better, ergonomically for long handheld use, than the HVX. And 1000 times better than the EX1. It's feather light, perfectly balanced, and the switches and buttons are mostly all there by feel.

- Do you have an HD, and have you watched broadcast HD? If you've watched the Super Bowl or Prison Break or Dancing With the Stars or American Idol or any HD broadcast on Fox or ABC, you've seen 720p. If you've watched CBS or NBC, you've seen 1080i. I guarantee you 90% of the viewing audience could never tell the difference between 720p and 1080i. Of those who could, it'd be more due to seeing combing/edge artifacts on the 1080i broadcasts (especially annoying during something like basketball, where the painted lines on the court shimmer annoyingly; that never happens on 720p). The European Broadcast Union strongly endorsed 720p over 1080i, saying the days of interlace are past us.But, 1080i has a "bigger number" and so people think it's "better". Oh well. Whatever. Doesn't really matter as the HMC does 1080i, 1080p, and 720p.

- EDIUS also has current AVC-HD support: shoot to the SD card, plug in the SD card, and drag the files right to the timeline (no "importing", no "ingesting", no "converting", just edit right off the SD card if you want). However, EDIUS doesn't yet support the "PH" mode of the 150. I doubt any NLE does, except maybe Pinnacle 11. EDIUS does support PH mode in their CanopusHQ file converter, so I expect that they'll have full native support for all modes in their next revision.PH is important for a lot of reasons. #1, it's full-raster 1920x1080 and 1280x720. #2, it's the only mode of AVC-HD that supports 720p. But most importantly, #3, it's designed to be the most easily editable. Keep in mind that the EDIUS converter is faster than realtime in converting PH mode 720p footage into CanopusHQ -- so not only is my dual-core laptop fast enough to support faster-than-realtime decoding, it actually supports faster-than-realtime ENCODING to another codec and even writing that file out! What that means to me is, when they support it natively in EDIUS and the only job it's doing is the decode, you'll probably have enough processor power to do TWO streams of AVC-HD PH-mode footage RIGHT NOW.

- I can guarantee you that watching this stuff out of the HDMI, there is absolutely no pixelization at all whatsoever in any way, shape, or form. At all. Zero. None. There is some video noise, but no compression pixelization at all. And the video noise is extremely low; an HVX or HD100 or XHA1 user would probably think there was no noise whatsoever.

- Sensitivity beats the HV20 by about 2.5 stops. It's about 1/4 stop slower than a DVX.   The HMC150 is 500 ISO.

-   Here, on the 150, they took almost everything from the 170 and kept it! It still has DRS, it still has cinegamma, it still has 24p, it still does 1080 and 720, you can still do overcranked 60p slow-mo, it has pre-record, it has all the same scene file settings and image adjustments, it even has the waveform and vectorscope and LCD flip features. I mean, I would have thought that if they were removing things, those would have been the first to go -- but they're still here. Granted they took away HD-SDI, but they added HDMI which, for a lower-end unit, is probably the more appropriate connector anyway. It's still a fully uncompressed digital 4:2:2 signal, like HD-SDI, but it works with televisions and the Intensity and other gear that's priced more appropriately for a camera of this price range. And with HDMI that means that you could use the XDR or NanoFlash, even though it starts to become questionable as to why you'd even want to, since you can record directly to dime-store SD cards as-is.

- You can have either 4:3 or 16:9 markers in viewfinder.

- Sensitivity will probably still be in favor of the PD170/VX2000. Sharpness and grain are going to be way in the 150's favor, especially (way especially) if you want to do 16:9.   Try stopping down PD170 by 1 stop and that should approximate (approximately!) what an HMC150 would look like in similar situations. The standard-def 16:9 will look WAY better from an HMC150 than it would from a digitally-stretched VX2000, PD170, or DVX.

- Considering that the 150 delivers a better picture than the 200, and I compared the 200 against the XHA1, I would have no qualms in saying that the 150 delivers what I consider a more pleasing image than either of the Canons (and I'm sure many Canon fans will disagree; this is, of course, subjective). I posted lots of pictures from my XHA1 vs. HVX200 comparison; the 150 is way cleaner and with even better color accuracy than the HVX200 so you could use that as a starting point. In 1080i, the Canons will show more detail. In 1080p they're within spitting distance according to the images I shot. In 720p, ... well, the Canons don't do 720p so you can't really compare that. How does the 150 compare to the A1's sensitivity? The A1 and HVX were pretty close, with the improvements in the 150 I'd say it's more sensitive, and it's way quieter in noise.                                          







- I had a chance to see Premiere Pro CS4 with HMC150 footage. Realtime native editing. Saw the guy drag the clips right off the card and edit at full frame rate.



Изменето од Zoran K - 31.Декември.2008 во 00:27