Музиката во исламот

64. I zavodi glasom svojim koga možeš i potjeraj na njih svoju konjicu i svoju pješadiju, i
budi im ortak u imecima, i u djeci, i daji im obećanja -a šejtan ih samo obmanjuje -,(El-Isra)

It was narrated that Mujaahid (may Allaah have mercy on him) said: “And befool them gradually those whom you can among them with your voice” – his voice [the voice of Iblees/Shaytaan] is singing and falsehood. Ibn al-Qayyim (may Allaah have mercy on him) said: This idaafah [possessive or genitive construction, i.e., your voice] serves to make the meaning specific, as with the phrases [translated as] “your cavalry” and “your infantry” [later in the same aayah]. Everyone who speaks in any way that is not obedient to Allaah, everyone who blows into a flute or other woodwind instrument, or who plays any haraam kind of drum, this is the voice of the Shaytaan. Everyone who walks to commit some act of disobedience towards Allaah is part of his [the Shaytaan’s] infantry, and anyone who rides to commit sin is part of his cavalry. This is the view of the Salaf, as Ibn ‘Abi Haatim narrated from Ibn ‘Abbaas: his infantry is everyone who walks to disobey Allaah. (Ighaathat al-Lahfaan).
The Messenger of Allaah (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) said:

“Among my ummah there will certainly be people who permit zinaa, silk, alcohol and musical instruments…” (Narrated by al-Bukhaari ta’leeqan, no. 5590; narrated as mawsool by al-Tabaraani and al-Bayhaqi. See al-Silsilah al-Saheehah by al-Albaani, 91).

This hadeeth indicates in two ways that musical instruments and enjoyment of listening to music are haraam. The first is the fact that the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) said: “[they] permit” which clearly indicates that the things mentioned, including musical instruments, are haraam according to sharee’ah, but those people will permit them. The second is the fact that musical instruments are mentioned alongside things which are definitely known to be haraam, i.e., zinaa and alcohol: if they (musical instruments) were not haraam, why would they be mentioned alongside these things? (adapted from al-Silsilah al-Saheehah by al-Albaani, 1/140-141)

It was narrated that Naafi’ (may Allaah have mercy on him) said: Ibn ‘Umar heard a woodwind instrument, and he put his fingers in his ears and kept away from that path. He said to me, O Naafi’, can you hear anything? I said, No. So he took his fingers away from his ears and said: I was with the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) and he heard something like this, and he did the same thing. (Saheeh Abi Dawood). Some insignificant person said that this hadeeth does not prove that musical instruments are haraam, because if that were so, the Messenger of Allaah (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) would have instructed Ibn ‘Umar (may Allaah be pleased with them both) to put his fingers in his ears as well, and Ibn ‘Umar would have instructed Naafi’ to do likewise! The response to this is: He was not listening to it, but he could hear it. There is a difference between listening and hearing. Shaykh al-Islam (Ibn Taymiyah) (may Allaah have mercy on him) said: Concerning (music) which a person does not intend to listen to, there is no prohibition or blame, according to scholarly consensus. Hence blame or praise is connected to listening, not to hearing. The one who listens to the Qur’aan will be rewarded for it, whereas the one who hears it without intending or wanting to will not be rewarded for that, because actions are judged by intentions. The same applies to musical instruments which are forbidden: if a person hears them without intending to, that does not matter. (al-Majmoo’, 10/78).

Значи к*ранот не прецизира дали е забрането или не да се слуша музика. А интересно е што оваа книга, колку што разбрав, ја интерпретираат многу луѓе и тоа на многу различни начини, веројатно зависно од своите лични ставови. Па зошто к*ранот не е напишан недвосмислено, за секој што ќе го прочита да може да го разбере на ист начин? Не сакам јас некој мене да ми интерпретира нешто по свое; сакам да го разберам точно онака како што е напишано.
А да ве прашам, зошто ниту еден човек не доби свинска или мајмунска фаца???

pa sekoj ima svoj stav ...eve jas licno mislam deka muzikata i i muzickite instrumenti se haram.

ne , ne ne se sejtanova rabota insrumentite gi ismislile ludzeto neli? A sotonata sami gi zloupotrebuva istite tie vo svoja korist samo da gi otrne ludzeto od praviot pati da im nasteti na Ludzeto..pa ti sega vidi se sto mu steti na covekot vo sekoj pogled pa i vo pogled na relacija Gospodar i Rob i so toA se probuva da se narusi taa relacija jas licno taa rabota ja smetam za zabraneta.( Haram) Ama kako sto rekovme sekoj ima svoe mislenje i i pricini za takvoto mislneje

Во оваа сура не читам дека е спомнато забава, музика или танци.

Изменето од im happy - 01.Мај.2008 во 20:37

Еве само за големиот познавач на англискиот јазик, господин зидарски, читај што во превод е varieties


va·ri·e·ty (və-rī'ĭ-tē) pronunciation
n., pl. -ties.

   1. The quality or condition of being various or varied; diversity.
   2. A number or collection of varied things, especially of a particular group; an assortment: brought home a variety of snacks.
   3. A group that is distinguished from other groups by a specific characteristic or set of characteristics.
   4. Biology.
        1. A taxonomic subdivision of a species consisting of naturally occurring or selectively bred populations or individuals that differ from the remainder of the species in certain minor characteristics.
        2. An organism, especially a plant, belonging to such a subdivision.
   5. A variety show.

[French variété, from Old French, from Latin varietās, varietāt-, from varius, various.]

Happy - правиш грешка во преводот. Variety е тоа што го наведе, но истотака - во англискиот јазик означува и забава, и тоа конкретно се однесува на забава со музика и танци. Зборот е изведен токму од значењето на оргиналниот збор - Разновидност (во смисла, забава на различни начини). Наместо да се ослонуваш на еден речник, побарај малку по лексикони. Во овој контекст во кој е спомнато тука, а и земајки во предвид различни преводи на к*ранот, токму се однесува на забавата и музиката.
Еве друг превод:
“Do you then wonder at this recitation (the Qur’aan)?
And you laugh at it and weep not,
Wasting your (precious) lifetime in pastime and amusements (singing)”
[al-Najm 53:59-61]
Како што гледаш - тука е преведено како pastime and amusements - односно, забава.