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Templarius
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Bektesite se prvin muslimani pa pota Bektesi a Jovan e prvin hristijanin pa pota sto i da e .... kako bi bilo koga bi imalo deset IVZ ili pak deset HVZ toa bi bil haos.... |
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Aisha
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Znam, no sepak zakon si e zakon.
Kako sto rekov, vo Hrvatska postojat okolu 90 registrirani zaednici po doensuvanjeto na zakonot. E pa patot do Evopra ne e lesen Znaci tie ne mozat da se registriaat vo Centralniot registar kako IVZ ili MPC, ke go smenat nazivot, bidejki veke tuka stapuva na sila zakonot za zdruzenija i organizacii, znaci treba da dodat uste nesto do nazivot koj ke gi razlikuva so orginalnata zaednica. E sega ne mi se poznata varijaciite, no ke vidime zar ne! |
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PROUD TO BE A MUSLIM!!!!
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OK, sega e pojasno. Nema nikakva zabrana za registriranje na nikava verska organizacija i taa kako takva togash avtomatski pripagja kon grupata organizacii vo edna verska zaednica.
Ako e hristijanska organizacija togash odi vo hristijanska zaednica na organizacii, a ako e muslimanska odi vo muslmanska zednica, taka? Zoshto razlichnite organizacii pravat problem od toa? |
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Truth needs no laws to support it. Throughout history only lies and liars have resorted to the courts to enforce adherence to dogma.
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Templarius
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Toa e anarhija kako bi izgledalo koga vo makedonija bi imalo dve MPC i dve IVZ so isto ime sto ce gi razgranicuva sto ce gi pravi togas razlicni i voopsto ako sakaat da se so isto ime znaci deka zastupuvaat isti raboti togas zasto da ne se priklucat kon vece oformenite koga se isti????
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Pa pravat problem od prosta pricina sto tie sakaat da bidat nositeli na verata vo odredena zaednica i kako takvi da gi promoviraat nivnite idei i programa kako najispravni....toa e borba za moc i prevlast so koj saka da se vovede anarhija vo sistemot so sto se stvara plodna pocva za sekakov tip na manipulacii so vernicite.... |
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Aisha
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E ajde de, ako se siti togas zosto razliki, OCIGLEDNO NE SE ISTI, STOM NE SAKAAT DA BIDAT DEL OD VEKE POSTOECKATA VERSKA ZAEDNICA.
kako sto objasniv pogore nemoze da imaat identicno ime no prefiksot ke bide ist. Kako sto rekov ke vidime kakvi iminja ke niknat. A za osnovani organizacii koi se pripojuvaat do zaednicite, hm.....pa toa zavisi dali zednicite sakaat tie organizacii da gi imaat pod svoe zakrilje. |
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PROUD TO BE A MUSLIM!!!!
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Templarius
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Pa toa i go zboruvam ... celta e nametnuvanje preku sistemot i preku ustavot. Kako priznaena VZ samata VZ ima pogolema moc i pogolemo vlijanie vrz narodot... |
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Da, mozhe da se protolkuva kako borba za mok i vlijanie vrz vernicite...
Poradi tie prichini, za da gi izbegnat postojanite raspravii i tenzi, EU verijatno donela zakon site da imaat pravo da si formiraat svoi zaednici. Dobar politichki poteg. Od organizacii so eden dekret gi unapredile vo zaednici. Tolku. A stom site se zaednici, odednash ja snemuva vazhnosta na zaednicata kako takva i ostanuva samo nejzinoto ime... I volkot sit i ovcite na broj, sto bi rekol narodot |
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Da ama na EU toj zakon sega i se vraca kako bumerang so toa sto se se slucuva po Francija so Arapite, Germanija kade sto k*rdite pravat problemi i najpovredena so toj zakon ispadna Britanija ...... |
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When we see countries such as Belgium classifying Southern Baptists, Quakers, Hasidic Jews' communities and Quakers as ''sects'' in an attempt to justify or legitimize violations of the fundamental rights of these groups and their follows.
When countries, such as France, pass legislation such as the About-Picard bill, it is imperative for this Subcommittee to act—to address the root causes of the problem; to investigate abuses; and, most importantly, to dissect the policies and laws, in order to assess the impact that these may have on the actions of other governments. Upon passage of the French legislation on May 30, Ms. Picard, one of its authors, told the media that France was the ''leader'' in this field, and that ''Foreign parliaments are closely observing our actions, such as Germany, Belgium, Italy, Spain, Portugal and former Eastern bloc countries.'' State Department officials have confirmed that many of these European countries are considering similar legislation. It has been widely reported that China's Communist leaders are studying the French precedent for possible use against the Falun Gong movement. And just yesterday, Joseph Bosco who teaches at Georgetown University's School of Foreign Service, wrote in an article in The Washington Post that ''Chinese officials now triumphantly canvass American academics, touting the French law as partial vindication for China's much-criticized human rights practice.'' Why the fear about the French law will become the norm, rather than the exception? To reiterate, it creates new arenas for religious discrimination and violations of fundamental liberties. Eve sto zakonot vo EU ima napraveno i doprva ce pravi.... |
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Ne znam kako toa ovoj zakon im se vraka kako bumerang? Kako mozhe pravoto na sozdavanje verski zaednici da bide negativen za drzhavata? Navistina ne mi e jasno, pa objasni ako mozhesh.
Temava stanuva interesna. |
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Изменето од trebo.r.a - 19.Април.2008 во 01:44 |
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Templarius
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The German government is afraid k*rdish groups will institute a new wave of terror on German soil like what occurred in the early 1990s with one difference; this time the Turks will respond to the demonstrations. Germany will be then a battle ground. Is the German government afraid of this? Obviously, yes. This is the most important factor for this decision, even though Schroeder said, just like the prophet Solomon, that "our decision serves to keep the peace of justice." The question is what peace and for whom? The reality is that in a historical context Germany is a new actor in this conflict. It is to be expected that Turkish-German relations will become worse than the already low level it they are at the moment. Before the German elections in September, all analysts agreed that under a social democrat government in Germany the k*rdish question would be a thorny issue between the two countries. Today it has become a reality. Germany suggests that Ocalan should be brought before an international court or an EU tribunal. Why is Germany insisting on this international court? Turkish Justice Minister Hasan Denizk*rdu has said that Germany's decision not to seek Ocalan's extradition even though German courts had issued arrest warrants, as a "justice scandal." Ocalan knew that the Schroeder government would not like to have him.
http://www.turkishdailynews.com |
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The k*rds are the largest stateless nation in the world today. Considerable research has been done on the k*rdish people and their relations with the states in which they live. Traditionally these inquiries have explored this ethnic group’s interaction with Iran, Iraq, Syria, Armenia, Azerbaijan and Turkey. However, few studies have been done on the diaspora relationships k*rds have established with states outside k*rdish homelands. The internal political situation of Turkey has become relevant for neighboring states. The movements’ struggle for statehood has moved into the countries of the European Union, with specific intensity in Germany. It is estimated that about 500,000 k*rds live within the borders of Germany and consider it to be their home. However, as they were once courted and gladly received with open arms by Germany’s industrial sector, they have recently worn out their welcome as their conflict and separatist movement has become internationalized and taken root on German soil. Germany, in many respects, is no longer able to control the flow of refugees coming from traditional k*rdish homelands. The German government is being pressured from k*rdish contention, especially from the radical k*rdish Workers’ Party (PKK).
http://www2.hawaii.edu/~fredr/k*rds.htm Vidis deka ima i toa mnogu.... |
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