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Fantastic Lady напиша: ANAKIN If I hold a book and say that ‘this is a pen’, for the opposite person to say, ‘it is not a pen’, he should know what is the definition of a pen, even if he does not know nor is able to recognise or identify the object I am holding in my hand. For him to say this is not a pen, he should at least know what a pen means. Similarly for an atheist to say ‘there is no God’, he should at least know the concept of God,,, How can u deny smth about what u have no knowledge???

sepak kje ti odgovoram

dali e penkalo ili ne - sepak drzi vo raka nesto sto nelici na penkalo

no daj po analogija- daj definicija za ALFA KENTAUREC sto zivee stotina svetlosni godini odalecen od nas

jas veruvam deka postoi - za tebe neznam - no daj definicija za nego


Изменето од anakin - 31.Јануари.2008 во 19:07

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Изменето од Anthony - 21.Февруари.2008 во 17:29

Abych ti rekl pravdu Fantastic lady,ja vubec nemaм chуt cist taky neco co neni psano na makedonsky, proc bych se stim namahal, to bych byl blazen.

Nu vot djevushka , chto tjebe ne nada pisatj na jazike kortorym gavarim v celyj forum , tak nje nada ja citjatj.

Pozdrawjan kobjeto, ocilyszce mi do holery jasnego nje rozumjem.

Обаче, аз винаги ште траба теб не читат,


Изменето од anakin - 31.Јануари.2008 во 18:40

An atheist professor of philosophy speaks to his class on the problem science has with God, The
Almighty.
He asks one of his new students to stand and...
Prof: So you believe in God?
Student: Absolutely, sir.
Prof: Is God good?
Student: Sure.
Prof: Is God all-powerful?
Student: Yes.
Prof: My brother died of cancer even though he prayed to God to heal him. Most of us would
attempt to help others who are ill. But God didn’t. How is this God good then? Hmm?
Student: Silent.
Prof: You can’t answer, can you? Let’s start again, young fellow. Is God good?
Student: Yes.
Prof: Is Satan good?
Student: No.
Prof: Where does Satan come from?
Student: Silent.
Prof: Tell me son, is there evil in this world?
Student: Yes.
Prof: Evil is everywhere, isn’t it?
Student: Yes.
Prof: So who created evil?
Student: Silent.
Prof: Is there sickness, Immorality, Hatred, Ugliness? All these terrible things exist in the world,
don’t they?
Student: Yes, sir.
Prof: So, who created them?
Student: Silent.
Prof: Science says you have 5 senses you use to identify and observe the world around you. Tell
me, son...Have you ever seen God?
Student: No, sir.
Prof: Tell us if you have ever heard your God?
Student: No, sir.
Prof: Have you ever felt your God, tasted your God, smelt your God? Have you ever had any sensory
perception of God for that matter?
Student: No, sir. I’m afraid I haven’t.
Prof: Yet you still believe in Him?
Student: Yes.
Prof: According to empirical, testable, demonstrable protocol, science says your GOD doesn’t
exist. What do you say to that, son?
Student: Nothing. I only have my faith.
Prof: Yes. Faith. And that is the problem science has.
Student: Professor, is there such a thing as heat?
Prof: Yes.
Student: And is there such a thing as cold?
Prof: Yes.
Student: No sir. There isn’t. (The lecture theatre becomes very quiet with this turn of events.)
Student: Sir, you can have lots of heat, even more heat, superheat, mega heat, white heat, a little
heat or no heat. But we don’t have anything called cold. We can hit 458 degrees below zero which
is no heat, but we can’t go any further after that. There is no such thing as cold. Cold is only a
word we use to describe the absence of heat. We cannot measure cold. Heat is energy. Cold is not
the opposite of heat, sir, just the absence of it. (There is pin-drop silence in the lecture theatre.)
Student: What about darkness, Professor? Is there such a thing as darkness?
Prof: Yes. What is night if there isn’t darkness?
Student: You’re wrong again, sir. Darkness is the absence of something. You can have low light,
normal light, bright light, flashing light... But if you have no light constantly, you have nothing
and its called darkness, isn’t it? In reality, darkness isn’t. If it were you would be able to make
darkness darker, wouldn’t you?
Prof: So what is the point you are making, young man?
Student: Sir, my point is your philosophical premise is flawed.
Prof: Flawed? Can you explain how?
Student: Sir, you are working on the premise of duality. You argue there is life and then there is
death, a good God and a bad God. You are viewing the concept of God as something finite, something
we can measure. Sir, science can’t even explain a thought. It uses electricity and magnetism,
but has never seen, much less fully understood, either one. To view death as the opposite of
life is to be ignorant of the fact that death cannot exist as a substantive thing. Death is not the
opposite of life: just the absence of it.
Now tell me, Professor. Do you teach your students that they evolved from a monkey?
Prof: If you are referring to the natural evolutionary process, yes, of course, I do.
Student: Have you ever observed evolution with your own eyes, sir? (The Professor shakes his
head with a smile, beginning to realize where the argument is going.)
Student: Since no one has ever observed the process of evolution at work and cannot even prove
that this process is an on-going endeavor, are you not teaching your opinion, sir? Are you not a
scientist but a preacher? (The class is in uproar.)
Student: Is there anyone in the class who has ever seen the Professor’s brain? (The class breaks
out into laughter!)
Student: Is there anyone here who has ever heard the Professor’s brain, felt it, touched or smelt
it? No one appears to have done so. So, according to the established rules of empirical, stable,
demonstrable protocol, science says that you have no brain, sir. With all due respect, sir, how do
we then trust your lectures, sir? (The room is silent. The professor stares at the student, his face
unfathomable.)
Prof: I guess you’ll have to take them on faith, son.
Student: That is it sir....The link between man and God is FAITH. That is all that keeps things
moving and alive

The claim that something does not exist, because you haven’t seen or heard it is untenable. When we consider the limitations of our sensual perception and of our reasoning powers, it is not necessary that we understand everything

ANAKIN
If I hold a book and say that ‘this is a pen’, for the opposite person to say, ‘it is not a pen’, he should know what is the definition of a pen, even if he does not know nor is able to recognise or identify the object I am holding in my hand. For him to say this is not a pen, he should at least know what a pen means. Similarly for an atheist to say ‘there is no God’, he should at least know the concept of God,,,
How can u deny smth about what u have no knowledge???

Изменето од Fantastic Lady - 31.Јануари.2008 во 17:14