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mnogu mi e zal sto imame mnogu slaba literatura vo makedonija, i mnogu malku ima arabski knigi vo prevod... inace ke ti prevedev ali me mrzi :) no imas online recnik na idividi.com.mk :))))))
ke se snajdes ako sakas da doznaes.
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The Development of AlgebraThe Hindus and Arabs
A number was turned into the corresponding negative quantity by placing a dot over it. They also had a method for representing positive and negative numbers pictorially by line segments in different directions, corresponding to our representation using a number line. In their treatment of equations in several unknowns, the Hindus also achieved some advance on Diophantus, in that they actually worked with several unknowns using different colours to distinguish them. Thus the second unknown was called "the black one", the third "The blue one", etc. Since they allowed negative numbers in their solution of quadratic equations, they could combine the various cases considered by Diophantus into one rule, and had a method of solution similar to our formula for quadratics today. The Hindus were the first to show an awareness of the fact that roots occur in pairs, and occasionally even admitted negative roots as solutions. The Arabs took over the preparatory work done by the Greeks and Hindus in algebra. Their most important algebraist was al-Khowarizmi (9th century - his name is commemorated in the word "algorithm"). His major work is entitled "Al-jabr wa'lmugabalah" (restoration and balancing) and from the first word in this title we now have the word "algebra". However his algebra was a rhetorical algebra which, unlike the work of Diophantus, did not use symbols for particular arithmetical operations. Before the Renaissance, all algebra was motivated by geometry and any methods for solving equations were derived or proved geometrically. The geometric proofs given by al-Khowarizmi for solving quadratics are interesting. For the case The total area of the large square can be expressed in two forms: 1. A = (x + 2.
Belichka dosta ti e ova do naredniot pat :)
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hahahahah
be nerazbiram angliski
daj napisi ti nakratko
ne studiram matematika...
kratko e prashanjeto a i kratok e odgovorot
od koga kade koga........?
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eve BELICHKA da citas poveke za ova :)) pozdrav..
The Indian numerals discussed in our article Indian numerals form the basis of the European number systems which are now widely used. However they were not transmitted directly from India to Europe but rather came first to the Arabic/Islamic peoples and from them to Europe. The story of this transmission is not, however, a simple one. The eastern and western parts of the Arabic world both saw separate developments of Indian numerals with relatively little interaction between the two. By the western part of the Arabic world we mean the regions comprising mainly North Africa and Spain. Transmission to Europe came through this western Arabic route, coming into Europe first through Spain.
There are other complications in the story, however, for it was not simply that the Arabs took over the Indian number system. Rather different number systems were used simultaneously in the Arabic world over a long period of time. For example there were at least three different types of arithmetic used in Arab countries in the eleventh century: a system derived from counting on the fingers with the numerals written entirely in words, this finger-reckoning arithmetic was the system used for by the business community; the sexagesimal system with numerals denoted by letters of the Arabic alphabet; and the arithmetic of the Indian numerals and fractions with the decimal place-value system. The first sign that the Indian numerals were moving west comes from a source which predates the rise of the Arab nations. In 662 AD Severus Sebokht, a Nestorian bishop who lived in Keneshra on the Euphrates river, wrote:-
This passage clearly indicates that knowledge of the Indian number system was known in lands soon to become part of the Arab world as early as the seventh century. The passage itself, of course, would certainly suggest that few people in that part of the world knew anything of the system. Severus Sebokht as a Christian bishop would have been interested in calculating the date of Easter (a problem to Christian churches for many hundreds of years). This may have encouraged him to find out about the astronomy works of the Indians and in these, of course, he would find the arithmetic of the nine symbols. By 776 AD the Arab empire was beginning to take shape and we have another reference to the transmission of Indian numerals. We quote from a work of al-Qifti Chronology of the scholars written around the end the 12th century but quoting much earlier sources:-
Now in [A universal history of numbers : From prehistory to the invention of the computer (London, 1998).',1)">1] (where a longer quote is given) Ifrah tries to determine which Indian work is referred to. He concludes that the work was most likely to have been Brahmagupta's Brahmasphutasiddhanta (The Opening of the Universe) which was written in 628. Irrespective of whether Ifrah is right, since all Indian texts after Aryabhata I's Aryabhatiya used the Indian number system of the nine signs, certainly from this time the Arabs had a translation into Arabic of a text written in the Indian number system. It is often claimed that the first Arabic text written to explain the Indian number system was written by al-Khwarizmi. However there are difficulties here which many authors tend to ignore. The Arabic text is lost but a twelfth century Latin translation, Algoritmi de numero Indorum (in English Al-Khwarizmi on the Hindu Art of Reckoning) gave rise to the word algorithm deriving from his name in the title. Unfortunately the Latin translation is known to be much changed from al-Khwarizmi's original text (of which even the title is unknown). The Latin text certainly describes the Indian place-value system of numerals based on 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, and 0. The first use of zero as a place holder in positional base notation is considered by some to be due to al-Khwarizmi in this work. The difficulty which arises is that al-Baghdadi refers to the Arabic original which, contrary to what was originally thought, seems not to be a work on Indian numerals but rather a work on finger counting methods. This becomes clear from the references by al-Baghdadi to the lost work. However the numerous references to al-Khwarizmi's book on the Indian nine symbols must mean that he did write such a work. Some degree of mystery still remains. At first the Indian methods were used by the Arabs with a dust board. In fact in the western part of the Arabic world the Indian numerals came to be known as Guba (or Gubar or Ghubar) numerals from the Arabic word meaning "dust". A dust board was used because the arithmetical methods required the moving of numbers around in the calculation and rubbing some out some of them as the calculation proceeded. The dust board allowed this in the same sort of way that one can use a blackboard, chalk and a blackboard eraser. Any student who has attended lectures where the lecturer continually changes and replaces parts of the mathematics as the demonstration progresses will understand the disadvantage of the dust board! Around the middle of the tenth century al-Uqlidisi wrote Kitab al-fusul fi al-hisab al-Hindi which is the earliest surviving book that presents the Indian system. In it al-Uqlidisi argues that the system is of practical value:-
In the fourth part of this book al-Uqlidisi showed how to modify the methods of calculating with Indian symbols, which had required a dust board, to methods which could be carried out with pen and paper. Certainly the fact that the Indian system required a dust board had been one of the main obstacles to its acceptance. For example As-Suli, after praising the Indian system for its great simplicity, wrote in the first half of the tenth century:-
Al-Uqlidisi's work is therefore important in attempting to remove one of the obstacles to acceptance of the Indian nine symbols. It is also historically important as it is the earliest known text offering a direct treatment of decimal fractions. Despite many scholars finding calculating with Indian symbols helpful in their work, the business community continued to use their finger arithmetic throughout the tenth century. Abu'l-Wafa, who was himself an expert in the use of Indian numerals, nevertheless wrote a text on how to use finger-reckoning arithmetic since this was the system used by the business community and teaching material aimed at these people had to be written using the appropriate system. Let us give a little information about the Arab letter numerals which are contained in Abu'l-Wafa's work. The numbers were represented by letters but not in the dictionary order. The system was known as huruf al jumal which meant "letters for calculating" and also sometimes as abjad which is just the first four numbers (1 = a, 2 = b, j = 3, d = 4). The numbers from 1 to 9 were represented by letters, then the numbers 10, 20, 30, ..., 90 by the next nine letters (10 = y, 20 = k, 30 = l, 40 = m, ...), then 100, 200, 300, ... , 900 by the next letters (100 = q, 200 = r, 300 = sh, 400 = ta, ...). There were 28 Arabic letters and so one was left over which was used to represent 1000. Arabic astronomers used a base 60 version of Arabic letter system. Although Arabic is written from right to left, we shall give an example writing in the left to right style that we use in writing English. A number, say 43 A contemporary of al-Baghdadi, writing near the beginning of the eleventh century, was ibn Sina (better known in the West as Avicenna). We know many details of his life for he wrote an autobiography. Certainly ibn Sina was a remarkable child, with a memory and an ability to learn which amazed the scholars who met in his father's home. A group of scholars from Egypt came to his father's house in about 997 when ibn Sina was ten years old and they taught him Indian arithmetic. He also tells of being taught Indian calculation and algebra by a seller of vegetables. All this shows that by the beginning of the eleventh century calculation with the Indian symbols was fairly widespread and, quite significantly, was know to a vegetable trader. What of the numerals themselves. We have seen in the article Indian numerals that the form of the numerals themselves varied in different regions and changed over time. Exactly the same happened in the Arabic world. Here is an example of an early form of Indian numerals being used in the eastern part of the Arabic empire. It comes from a work of al-Sijzi, not an original work by him but rather the work of another mathematician which al-Sijzi copied at Shiraz and dated his copy 969.
The numerals had changed their form somewhat 100 years later when this copy of one of al-Biruni's astronomical texts was made. Here are the numerals as they appear in a 1082 copy.
In fact a closer look will show that between 969 and 1082 the biggest change in the numerals was the fact that the 2 and the 3 have been rotated through 90
Perhaps because scribes did not have much experience at writing Indian numerals, they wrote 2 and 3 the correct way round instead of writing them rotated by 90
The form of the numerals in the west of the Arabic empire look more familiar to those using European numerals today which is not surprising since it is from these numerals that the Indian number system reach Europe.
He gave this form of the numerals in his practical arithmetic book written around the beginning of the fourteenth century. He lived most of his life in Morocco which was in close contact with al-Andalus, or Andalusia, which was the Arab controlled region in the south of Spain. The first surviving example of the Indian numerals in a document in Europe was, however, long before the time of al-Banna. The numerals appear in the Codex Vigilanus copied by a monk in Spain in 976. However the main part of Europe was not ready at this time to accept new ideas of any kind. Acceptance was slow, even as late as the fifteenth century when European mathematics began its rapid development which continues today. We will not examine the many contributions to bringing the Indian number system to Europe in this article but we will end with just one example which, however, is a very important one. Fibonacci writes in his famous book Liber abaci published in Pisa in 1202:-
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denesnata algebra sto se uci e zemena od arabite, kogo sakas prasaj, togas koga muslimanskata imperija duri stignala do spanija, togas bil otvoen prviot univerzitet vo evropa, koi od koga bile izbrkani posle 700 godini, tekstovite bile prevedeni na latinski, i nekoi si naucnici dostignaa mnogu vo naukata, kordoba togasno vreme se vikalo gradot na svetlinata, post bil togasno vreme osvetlen, i patistata bile napraveni od mermer, a evropa gazese niz kal, ima i za toa fakti ke ti dadam kolku sakas, kako napreduvaa evropejcite. :)
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malku li ti bea 500 god? :)
ako mislite deka bea tolku losi kolku sto tvrdite deka rusele crkvi vamte tamte, toa se gluposti, posto togasna otomanska imperija bila naj jaka na svetot, sto mozela da vi go izgubi tragot i da se naselat turci, no tie ne bile takvi , i togas imalo crkvi, duri ima socuvani dokumenti koi so dozvola na nekoj si togashen pasha izgradile crkva ,so koi pari? pa normalno so parite na pashata, duri i pomagale , no vie toa ne go svakate, u strogiot centar na skopje imalo Dzamija, nekoj ja srusil, isto taka vo denesniot vrhoven sud imalo dzamija, i nejze ja srusile imam i sliki ,i vo vremeto skopje broela 128 dzamii od koi ostanale samo 28, ne se raboti za 1, 2 ili 10,tuku za 100 . i toa e dokaz. ajde cao
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c.c.c.c............................aj koa se fati za arabite i algebrata koga e izmislena algebrata, cooooooooolio?
aj prebaraj gooogle?
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ova e mnogu smesno, ne znam jas od kaj gi zemavte brojkite, site vidovi matematiki sto den denes gi ucite, algebra, itn.. se razbira od arabite :P Изменето од coolio - 22.Февруари.2007 во 22:41 |
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Сè почесто употребуваниот збор џихад од страна на странските и домашните медиуми и неговото преведување како „света војна“ е неточно и неосновано. Имено, џихад го означува стремежот, напорот, да се постигне Алаховата волја. Неговата волја е мирот во светот, љубовта, еднаквоста и заедништвото меѓу луѓето, хуманоста, образованието и др., а стремежот кон овие доблести може да се именува така. Терминот „света војна“ е измислен токму од христијаните, кога папата за прв пат ги повикал христијаните од Европа во војна против муслиманите на Блискиот Исток. Тоа била првата крстоносна војна од која и останатите цивилизации и конфесии претрпеле големи штети, за што подоцна, во 20. век Ватикан се извини. Зарем историјата не се повторува? Затоа, овој термин не им доликува на муслиманите, бидејќи тие не се рушители на цивилизациите, туку создавачи и усовршувачи на истите. Второ што претходно на некој друг пост веќе кажав, ИСЛАМОТ е вера, сеопфатен индивидуален и општествен начин наживот. Затоа кога треба одбрана на поединецот, групата или општеството, дозволено и наредено им е на муслиманите да се бранат. А извиците со Божјето име, па, тоа е една стара традиција која што се практикува со векови, со цел да се даде на знаење дека се брани Божјата вера и власт на Земјата. |
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Компарација 2 . Џихад Кога зборуваме за злоупотреба на религиите, да кажеме дека НИКАДЕ во Новиот Завет нема заповед или оправдување за убиствата. И ако, некој го злоупотреби Бога за разни убиства или освојувања, тој е веднаш јавно, јасно и гласно, транспарентно осуден од верските лидери! Да не кажам, дека и ми е апсурдно да замислам некој со крст - знаме и со извици Исус Христос да оди и да убива или пак да тера некој да си ја чита смртната пресуда и после тој о тие извици ѕверски да го коли!!!!! Ситуација 2. Секојдневно некој, со полумесечина, и со извици Алаху екбер, убива, и што се не прави.ТОА Е ВЕРНИК, НЕВЕРНИК, ја злоупотребува религијата или масло на ЦИА и Евреите??? Тој оди во Рајот или гори во пеколот???? Ubivaweto na `enite i decata na neprijatelot „Taka govore[e Gospod Savaot: ... ‚Odi sega i porazi go Amalika i istrebi sè negovo, no ne zemaj za sebe ni[to od niv, tuku uni[ti go i prokolni sè [to e negovo; ne [tedi go, tuku predaj na smrt od ma` do `ena, od mom~e do doen~e, od vol do ovca, od kamila do osel.‘“ (Prva kniga Carstva, 15: 2, 3) „A sega, ubijte gi site deca od ma[ki pol, ubijte gi i site `eni, [to poznale ma` na ma[ko leglo; A site deca od `enski pol, koj ne poznale ma[ko leglo, ostavete gi `ivi za sebe si.“ (^etvrta kniga Mojseeva, 31: 17, 18) „ No vo gradovite na onie narodi, koi Gospod, tvojot Bog, ti dava da ja nasledi[ zemjata nivna, ne ostavaj ni edna `iva du[a.“ (Petta kniga Mojseeva, 20: 16) „Alah ne vi zabranuva da im pravite dobro i da bidete pravedni, kon onie koi ne se borat protiv vas i verata va{a, i koi ne ve proteruvaat od domovite va{i. Alah navistina gi saka onie koi se pravedni! Alah, navistina, vi zabranuva da prijateluvate so onie koi se borat protiv vas i protiv verata va{a, i koi ve proteruvaat od domovite va{i, i koi pomagaat vo proteruvaweto va{e. A onie koi prijateluvaat so niv, samite ebesi si ~inat nepravda!“ (k*ran, 60: 8, 9) Biblijata tvrdi deka Bog i Negovite pratenici Mojsej i Jo[ua im naredile na Evreite da ubivaat nevini `eni i deca! „I tie velat: ‚toa e od Alah‘, a vsu{nost ne e od Alah. Za Alah svesno govorat lagi!“ (k*ran, 3: 78) Nesomneno, na Bog ne mu dolikuva takov zlo~in kako i na Negovite pratenici. Bog i Negovite pratenici nikoga[ ne nareduvale ubivawe na nevini `eni i deca. Gospod veli vo Kuranot: „I zaradi toa Nie im propi{avme na sinovite Izrailevi deka, onoj koj {to }e ubie eden ~ovek, koj ne ubil nikogo ili koj ne pravel bezredie na Zemjata - kako da gi ubil site lu|e, a onoj koj {to }e spasi eden ~ovek - kako da gi spasil site lu|e. Verovesnicite Na{i jasni dokazi im iznesuvaa, no golem broj od niv, i posle toa, na Zemjata site granici na zloto gi preminuvaa.“ (k*ran, 5: 32) Vo k*ranot ne postoi nitu „Ne ubivajte gi starcite, `enite i decata!“ |
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a treba li na covek so gleda i ne e slep da mu kaze sto e islam?(pr-tebe)
Se shto e osvetleno od sonceto e ubavo
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Незнаењето е најголемиот непријател на луѓето!
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Ако Ѓаволот ви е Алах, и Злото Доблест, тогаш ДА, јас сум неверник... ![]() ![]() ![]() |
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Неверниците се тие кои се во заблуда аџија, ти спаѓаш во таа група на луѓе. Пак смеење, нормална работа на такви како тебе.
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