Митот за "Албанската мафија"
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Датум на принтање: 22.Ноември.2024 во 07:12 Верзија на софтверот: Web Wiz Forums 10.03 - http://www.webwizforums.com
Тема: Митот за "Албанската мафија"
Постирано од: Averoes
Наслов: Митот за "Албанската мафија"
Датум на внесување: 26.Октомври.2007 во 23:51
Pocituvani Forumdzii ,ja otvoram ovaa tema poradi faktot sto nasekade kade se spomnuvaat Albanci (na forumot mislam) ,na nekoi od Clenovite im ostana praksa da ja spomnat i" Albanskata Mafija " navodno taa bila najgolemiot financier na Albanskot prasanje vo Balkanot .Od kade Mitot za famoznata "Albanska Mafija" ,sekako deka toa e del od Srpskata Propaganda protiv Albancite na Kosovo i Albancite voopsto ,postojano ke gi vidite na Mediumite na televizzii kade se pojavuvaat nekoi si kvazi-analiticari kade velat deka "Albanskata Mafija e najka vo svetot" ,najloso e sto nekoi neobrazovani Albanci pagaat na vakvite srpski stapici i tie pocnuvaat da se falat so toa .Realnosta e nesto drugo ,Srpskata politika se obiduva na sekakov nacin da gi ocrni Albancite ,taa namerno veli deka "Albanskata Mafija e najjaka" ,tie namerno te pravat "golem" ,tie namerno te pravat "jak" ,on te forcira za svoi pricini ,ne deka te fali tebe (na Albancite mislam) ,tuku so toa sto ti veli deka si "jak" saka da te prikaze kako golema opasnost.Se znae koj e najjaka Mafia vo svetoto ,ne somneno tuka vodecki se Ruskata ,Kineskata ,Meksikanskata (i drugite Latino-Karteli) .Srbite zaboravaat na "Zemunski KLAN" i mnogu drugi Mafijaski Klanovi ... ,za ponatamu vi ostavam vam da prokomentirate.pozdrav
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Постирано од: orlov
Датум на внесување: 27.Октомври.2007 во 01:00
Форумов ни е загаден. *Барам дизинфекција. *Зафатени сме делумно со епидемијата ,,МАФИЈА,,
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Постирано од: PAVLIN
Датум на внесување: 27.Октомври.2007 во 03:39
Ibn Khaldun напиша:
Pocituvani Forumdzii ,ja otvoram ovaa tema poradi faktot sto nasekade kade se spomnuvaat Albanci (na forumot mislam) ,na nekoi od Clenovite im ostana praksa da ja spomnat i" Albanskata Mafija " navodno taa bila najgolemiot financier na Albanskot prasanje vo Balkanot .Od kade Mitot za famoznata "Albanska Mafija" ,sekako deka toa e del od Srpskata Propaganda protiv Albancite na Kosovo i Albancite voopsto ,postojano ke gi vidite na Mediumite na televizzii kade se pojavuvaat nekoi si kvazi-analiticari kade velat deka "Albanskata Mafija e najka vo svetot" ,najloso e sto nekoi neobrazovani Albanci pagaat na vakvite srpski stapici i tie pocnuvaat da se falat so toa .Realnosta e nesto drugo ,Srpskata politika se obiduva na sekakov nacin da gi ocrni Albancite ,taa namerno veli deka "Albanskata Mafija e najjaka" ,tie namerno te pravat "golem" ,tie namerno te pravat "jak" ,on te forcira za svoi pricini ,ne deka te fali tebe (na Albancite mislam) ,tuku so toa sto ti veli deka si "jak" saka da te prikaze kako golema opasnost.Se znae koj e najjaka Mafia vo svetoto ,ne somneno tuka vodecki se Ruskata ,Kineskata ,Meksikanskata (i drugite Latino-Karteli) .Srbite zaboravaat na "Zemunski KLAN" i mnogu drugi Mafijaski Klanovi ... ,za ponatamu vi ostavam vam da prokomentirate.pozdrav |
.... MOLAM!!!...ti se razbiras sto sakas da kazes ...veruvaj ne sakam da bidam vo nieden moment cinicen, ne sakam da vodam jalova diskusija , i ke go cenam tvoeto mislenje ako normalno so fakti mi go doobjasnis gore navedenoto...pozdrva
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Постирано од: moira
Датум на внесување: 27.Октомври.2007 во 17:49
Albanci i mitologija
Vo nedostatok na sopstvena mitologija, faktickite opstestveno devijantni sostojbi vo 21 vek, koi se observirani i dokazani vo site drzavi na Zemjinata topka, kade sto boravat Shqiptar-ite, gi narekuvaat MITOLOGIJA. E pogolema glupost ne sum slusnala. shqiptar und mythology
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Постирано од: dras
Датум на внесување: 28.Октомври.2007 во 00:50
Интересна констатација, албанска мафија што ли беше тоа!? Г-дин Кхалдун јасно е зошто ве погаѓа проблемот „албанска мафија“, не се толку македонците распространети низ европските земји како албанците, а некако највеќе проблеми на институциите кои се бават со законот и безбедноста во ЕУ, им прават баш Вашите сонародници, на Ваша жалост и меѓу Вас има интелектуалци кои работите ги гледат од друг агол, проблемот е што организираните мафијашки кланови кај вашите согрѓани го земаат својот данок, така да поштено вложениот труд не доаѓа до израз него профитот го носат, и самите знаете прашокот, проституцијата и оружјето, но зошто јас имам впечаток дека во сите три гупи на недозволени активности случјно се вмешани повќе од 90% албанци, и случајно по некој србин со македонско потекло да речеме Чочоровска како пример. Затоа добро е што на форумот е изнесен проблемот, но вистината е дека по клуч веќе имате и албанци вработени во безбедносните структури и тие нека се позанимаваат со Вашиот проблем , или пак пробајте на стариот начин повторно вклучете ги џамиите, најлесно е да се „води политика“, но гледам дека можеби и кај вас веќе се јавува проблемот на раскинување на племенската заедница и јачање на култот на поединец со повисоко ниво на образование кое си го работи своето. Времето ќе покаже, желбата за војни и кај Вас почнува да се губи!?
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Постирано од: dragon
Датум на внесување: 28.Октомври.2007 во 11:22
Khaldun poveli pisi si na svojot majcin jazik samo taka ke ni napravis usluga, ne znam zosto se opteretuvas vaka bukva po bukva, neli si za Ohridskiot ramkoven dogovor pa poveli pridrzuvajse covece. Si se fatil kako pijan za plot niz forumov pa samo novi i novi temi nametnuvas demek mngu si interesen. Se znae sonot na siptarite koj e pa daj sonuvaj si go a nas ostavi ne raat.
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Постирано од: Averoes
Датум на внесување: 28.Октомври.2007 во 15:12
dragon напиша:
Khaldun poveli pisi si na svojot majcin jazik samo taka ke ni napravis usluga, ne znam zosto se opteretuvas vaka bukva po bukva, neli si za Ohridskiot ramkoven dogovor pa poveli pridrzuvajse covece. Si se fatil kako pijan za plot niz forumov pa samo novi i novi temi nametnuvas demek mngu si interesen. Se znae sonot na siptarite koj e pa daj sonuvaj si go a nas ostavi ne raat. | Jas ne nametnuvam temi ,samo koga treba nesto da se kaze ,go iznesuvam ,ako toa tebe ne ti se dopaga ,togas nikoj so sila ne te tera da pisuvas na ovaa tema i na drugite temi otvoreni od moja strana .pozdrav
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Постирано од: Boogie
Датум на внесување: 28.Октомври.2007 во 15:15
Абе энаеме дека си невин,уживај
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Постирано од: Averoes
Датум на внесување: 28.Октомври.2007 во 15:27
dsds напиша:
Интересна констатација, албанска мафија што ли беше тоа!? Г-дин Кхалдун јасно е зошто ве погаѓа проблемот „албанска мафија“, не се толку македонците распространети низ европските земји како албанците, а некако највеќе проблеми на институциите кои се бават со законот и безбедноста во ЕУ, им прават баш Вашите сонародници, на Ваша жалост и меѓу Вас има интелектуалци кои работите ги гледат од друг агол, проблемот е што организираните мафијашки кланови кај вашите согрѓани го земаат својот данок, така да поштено вложениот труд не доаѓа до израз него профитот го носат, и самите знаете прашокот, проституцијата и оружјето, но зошто јас имам впечаток дека во сите три гупи на недозволени активности случјно се вмешани повќе од 90% албанци, и случајно по некој србин со македонско потекло да речеме Чочоровска како пример. Затоа добро е што на форумот е изнесен проблемот, но вистината е дека по клуч веќе имате и албанци вработени во безбедносните структури и тие нека се позанимаваат со Вашиот проблем , или пак пробајте на стариот начин повторно вклучете ги џамиите, најлесно е да се „води политика“, но гледам дека можеби и кај вас веќе се јавува проблемот на раскинување на племенската заедница и јачање на култот на поединец со повисоко ниво на образование кое си го работи своето. Времето ќе покаже, желбата за војни и кај Вас почнува да се губи!?
| Fakt e deka Albancite se porasprostranite niz Zapadna Evropa i Sad ,i vistina e deka poedinci Albanci se bavaat so Kriminal i im sozdavaat problemi na tamosnite vlasti ,no ima i edna vistina deka dobar del od Albancite vo Zapadna Evropa i Sad se uspesno integrirani vo tamosnite opstestva i imate Albanci koi se naviskoi funkcii vo tie zemji... No jasno e deka Srpskata propganda se obiduva da ja prikaze Albannskata mafija kako "naj jaka" so cel da im nasteti na reputacijata na Albancite voopsto,i kako rezultat na takvata propaganda se dade edna losa slika za kosovo i Albancite voopsto ,deka navodno "Kosovo e kontrolirana od Mafijata " i bla bla bla ... , Toa ni najmalce ne e vistina , fakt e deka nasekade ima mafijasi ,pa zemunski klan so bea ?? Najgolem dokaz deka Mafijata e najjaka vo Srbija e toa sto tokmu tie Mafijaski Kanovi uspeea da go ubijat Pokojniot Premier Dzindzic ... ,zamislete Mafijaski klanovi bea del od Srpskata Voena Formacija... ,del od Srpskata Regularna Armija a i plus imase paravoeni Foramcii koi deluvaa vo Bosna ,Hrvatska i Kosovo ...
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Постирано од: PAVLIN
Датум на внесување: 28.Октомври.2007 во 18:37
Ibn Khaldun напиша:
dsds напиша:
Интересна констатација, албанска мафија што ли беше тоа!? Г-дин Кхалдун јасно е зошто ве погаѓа проблемот „албанска мафија“, не се толку македонците распространети низ европските земји како албанците, а некако највеќе проблеми на институциите кои се бават со законот и безбедноста во ЕУ, им прават баш Вашите сонародници, на Ваша жалост и меѓу Вас има интелектуалци кои работите ги гледат од друг агол, проблемот е што организираните мафијашки кланови кај вашите согрѓани го земаат својот данок, така да поштено вложениот труд не доаѓа до израз него профитот го носат, и самите знаете прашокот, проституцијата и оружјето, но зошто јас имам впечаток дека во сите три гупи на недозволени активности случјно се вмешани повќе од 90% албанци, и случајно по некој србин со македонско потекло да речеме Чочоровска како пример. Затоа добро е што на форумот е изнесен проблемот, но вистината е дека по клуч веќе имате и албанци вработени во безбедносните структури и тие нека се позанимаваат со Вашиот проблем , или пак пробајте на стариот начин повторно вклучете ги џамиите, најлесно е да се „води политика“, но гледам дека можеби и кај вас веќе се јавува проблемот на раскинување на племенската заедница и јачање на култот на поединец со повисоко ниво на образование кое си го работи своето. Времето ќе покаже, желбата за војни и кај Вас почнува да се губи!?
| Fakt e deka Albancite se porasprostranite niz Zapadna Evropa i Sad ,i vistina e deka poedinci Albanci se bavaat so Kriminal i im sozdavaat problemi na tamosnite vlasti ,no ima i edna vistina deka dobar del od Albancite vo Zapadna Evropa i Sad se uspesno integrirani vo tamosnite opstestva i imate Albanci koi se naviskoi funkcii vo tie zemji... No jasno e deka Srpskata propganda se obiduva da ja prikaze Albannskata mafija kako "naj jaka" so cel da im nasteti na reputacijata na Albancite voopsto,i kako rezultat na takvata propaganda se dade edna losa slika za kosovo i Albancite voopsto ,deka navodno "Kosovo e kontrolirana od Mafijata " i bla bla bla ... , Toa ni najmalce ne e vistina , fakt e deka nasekade ima mafijasi ,pa zemunski klan so bea ?? Najgolem dokaz deka Mafijata e najjaka vo Srbija e toa sto tokmu tie Mafijaski Kanovi uspeea da go ubijat Pokojniot Premier Dzindzic ... ,zamislete Mafijaski klanovi bea del od Srpskata Voena Formacija... ,del od Srpskata Regularna Armija a i plus imase paravoeni Foramcii koi deluvaa vo Bosna ,Hrvatska i Kosovo ... |
abe ostaj nevini ste vie ko sto veli Boggie ...ve mestat samo nisto povekje...albanskata mafija e najnamestena mafija vo svetot....srbite kaj stignat gi mestat...ostaj se
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Постирано од: moira
Датум на внесување: 28.Октомври.2007 во 22:49
Ibn Khaldun: Fakt e deka Albancite se porasprostranite niz Zapadna Evropa i Sad ,i vistina e deka poedinci Albanci se bavaat so Kriminal i im sozdavaat problemi na tamosnite vlasti ,no ima i edna vistina deka dobar del od Albancite vo Zapadna Evropa i Sad se uspesno integrirani vo tamosnite opstestva i imate Albanci koi se naviskoi funkcii vo tie zemji... No jasno e deka Srpskata propganda se obiduva da ja prikaze Albannskata mafija kako "naj jaka" so cel da im nasteti na reputacijata na Albancite voopsto,i kako rezultat na takvata propaganda se dade edna losa slika za kosovo i Albancite voopsto ,deka navodno "Kosovo e kontrolirana od Mafijata " i bla bla bla ... , Toa ni najmalce ne e vistina , fakt e deka nasekade ima mafijasi ,pa zemunski klan so bea ?? Najgolem dokaz deka Mafijata e najjaka vo Srbija e toa sto tokmu tie Mafijaski Kanovi uspeea da go ubijat Pokojniot Premier Dzindzic ... ,zamislete Mafijaski klanovi bea del od Srpskata Voena Formacija... ,del od Srpskata Regularna Armija a i plus imase paravoeni Foramcii koi deluvaa vo Bosna ,Hrvatska i Kosovo ...
Bidejki mosne lesno se integrirate vo drzavite od Zapada EVropa i USA, i kako sto veils ima duri i Albanci koi se na visoki funkcii vo tie drzavi, togas ZOSTO NE USPEVATE NIKAKO DA SE INTEGRIRATE I VO MAKEDONIJA, osobeno vo poslednite dve decenii? Zarem nema Albanci koi se na mosne visoki funkcii vo R. Makedonija, ili vi e zagrozeno bilo koe covekovo pravo, pa ne ste vo moznost da se integrirate, sem sekako vo vasata partija za Demokratska integracija . No, iskreno ne ocekuvam odgovor od tebe, zatoa sto odnapred go znam, poznavajki go vasiot mentalen sklop, i vasiot “son, so koj spiete i se budite, i danju i nocu”.
Natamu govoris za mafijaski klnanovi koi “… zamislete Mafijaski klanovi bea del od Srpskata Voena Formacija... ,del od Srpskata Regularna Armija a i plus imase paravoeni Foramcii koi deluvaa vo Bosna ,Hrvatska i Kosovo…”
Te prasuvam koj klan bese i e vo KLA, ANA, KZK itn. itn., iminjata na vasite paravojski samo se mnozat, ili pak sto pretstavuvaat za tebe takanarecenite borci za covekovi prava, instruirani od albanskite mafijaski klanovi koi se samo najobicni marioneti i prisluznici, a patem za toa voopsto i ne se svesni? Koj go socinuva KZK? Pacifisti i covekoljupci?
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Постирано од: PAVLIN
Датум на внесување: 28.Октомври.2007 во 23:19
Постирано од: moira
Датум на внесување: 28.Октомври.2007 во 23:23
Mozebi e, no jas ne mozam da si dozvolam nekoj da mi plasira sekakvi gadosti, nevistini i da pluka po mene, a jas ednostavno da molcam i ignoriram.
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Постирано од: PAVLIN
Датум на внесување: 28.Октомври.2007 во 23:28
nitu jas samo rabotata e sto NE GO PRIFAKAAT NORMALNIOT NACIN NA ZIVEENJE da ne kazam realnosta im e tolku dalecna...a veruvaj vakvi se na mnogu visoki pozicii vo drzavava, posebno vo albanskata populacija
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Постирано од: moira
Датум на внесување: 28.Октомври.2007 во 23:33
Realnosta im e dalecna od nasata, da, bidejki se vo vremenski rascekor so nas
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Постирано од: PAVLIN
Датум на внесување: 28.Октомври.2007 во 23:50
I toa so ova tempo na menuvanje na generaciite...pa znaes li Gosev od koga e vo politika ili BC...tesko ke ni bide se povekje i povekje...mene pa edno sto pati mi imaat kazano deka nema RM da uspee i tolku...ako ja prifatam taa psihoza bi gi zadovolilo, obratno e sekogas mnogu tesko i ne znaes do kade ke stignes....
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Постирано од: moira
Датум на внесување: 29.Октомври.2007 во 00:13
Eh, erata na dinosaurusite, a do kade ke stigneme, iskreno kazano navistina ne znam, osobeno koga nemame konecna i definirana granica
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Постирано од: sp_dori
Датум на внесување: 29.Октомври.2007 во 01:36
OK
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Постирано од: Boogie
Датум на внесување: 29.Октомври.2007 во 08:12
Jas se izvinjavav no sp_dori mora da prestane so navredi inace ke bide suspendirana na 2 nedeli
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Постирано од: PAVLIN
Датум на внесување: 29.Октомври.2007 во 16:03
Постирано од: moira
Датум на внесување: 29.Октомври.2007 во 16:34
Posledno sto pomnam e deka makedonskata "TIGRICA" gordo ni go pokaza on the face of the place, kamenot za razgranicuvanje i taka dostoinstveno i so nasmevka stoese i pozirase pred nego, ama mozebi nekoj od Tanusevci ili Debalde go upotrebil pri postavuvanje na kamen temelnik na svojot dom.
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Постирано од: orlov
Датум на внесување: 30.Октомври.2007 во 00:09
dragon напиша:
Khaldun poveli pisi si na svojot majcin jazik samo taka ke ni napravis usluga, ne znam zosto se opteretuvas vaka bukva po bukva, neli si za Ohridskiot ramkoven dogovor pa poveli pridrzuvajse covece. Si se fatil kako pijan za plot niz forumov pa samo novi i novi temi nametnuvas demek mngu si interesen. Se znae sonot na siptarite koj e pa daj sonuvaj si go a nas ostavi ne raat.
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Ма дај удриму у фаца и кажиму дека Охридскит рамковниот договор е невалиден. А така ќе биде се додека сте потписници не достават до Комитетот за човекови права лекарси УВЕРЕНИЈА од Странски Независен Неуро Психијатриски Конзилиум дека се умно здрави.
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Постирано од: Baron
Датум на внесување: 30.Октомври.2007 во 00:37
Ibn Khaldun напиша:
Pocituvani Forumdzii ,ja otvoram ovaa tema poradi faktot sto nasekade kade se spomnuvaat Albanci (na forumot mislam) ,na nekoi od Clenovite im ostana praksa da ja spomnat i" Albanskata Mafija " navodno taa bila najgolemiot financier na Albanskot prasanje vo Balkanot .Od kade Mitot za famoznata "Albanska Mafija" ,sekako deka toa e del od Srpskata Propaganda protiv Albancite na Kosovo i Albancite voopsto ,postojano ke gi vidite na Mediumite na televizzii kade se pojavuvaat nekoi si kvazi-analiticari kade velat deka "Albanskata Mafija e najka vo svetot" ,najloso e sto nekoi neobrazovani Albanci pagaat na vakvite srpski stapici i tie pocnuvaat da se falat so toa .Realnosta e nesto drugo ,Srpskata politika se obiduva na sekakov nacin da gi ocrni Albancite ,taa namerno veli deka "Albanskata Mafija e najjaka" ,tie namerno te pravat "golem" ,tie namerno te pravat "jak" ,on te forcira za svoi pricini ,ne deka te fali tebe (na Albancite mislam) ,tuku so toa sto ti veli deka si "jak" saka da te prikaze kako golema opasnost.Se znae koj e najjaka Mafia vo svetoto ,ne somneno tuka vodecki se Ruskata ,Kineskata ,Meksikanskata (i drugite Latino-Karteli) .Srbite zaboravaat na "Zemunski KLAN" i mnogu drugi Mafijaski Klanovi ... ,za ponatamu vi ostavam vam da prokomentirate.pozdrav |
Batka, si se obrkal
Nema nikakva "Aljbanjska mafija"
Ima shiptarski kriminalni bandi, za koi srpskata propaganda obilno pisuva. Ili, mozebe, treba da molci i da se plasi od vasite bedasti besi?
GROW UP, ALJABANJAC!
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Постирано од: orlov
Датум на внесување: 30.Октомври.2007 во 17:32
Baron напиша:
Ibn Khaldun напиша:
Pocituvani Forumdzii ,ja otvoram ovaa tema poradi faktot sto nasekade kade se spomnuvaat Albanci (na forumot mislam) ,na nekoi od Clenovite im ostana praksa da ja spomnat i" Albanskata Mafija " navodno taa bila najgolemiot financier na Albanskot prasanje vo Balkanot .Od kade Mitot za famoznata "Albanska Mafija" ,sekako deka toa e del od Srpskata Propaganda protiv Albancite na Kosovo i Albancite voopsto ,postojano ke gi vidite na Mediumite na televizzii kade se pojavuvaat nekoi si kvazi-analiticari kade velat deka "Albanskata Mafija e najka vo svetot" ,najloso e sto nekoi neobrazovani Albanci pagaat na vakvite srpski stapici i tie pocnuvaat da se falat so toa .Realnosta e nesto drugo ,Srpskata politika se obiduva na sekakov nacin da gi ocrni Albancite ,taa namerno veli deka "Albanskata Mafija e najjaka" ,tie namerno te pravat "golem" ,tie namerno te pravat "jak" ,on te forcira za svoi pricini ,ne deka te fali tebe (na Albancite mislam) ,tuku so toa sto ti veli deka si "jak" saka da te prikaze kako golema opasnost.Se znae koj e najjaka Mafia vo svetoto ,ne somneno tuka vodecki se Ruskata ,Kineskata ,Meksikanskata (i drugite Latino-Karteli) .Srbite zaboravaat na "Zemunski KLAN" i mnogu drugi Mafijaski Klanovi ... ,za ponatamu vi ostavam vam da prokomentirate.pozdrav |
Batka, si se obrkal
Nema nikakva "Aljbanjska mafija"
Ima shiptarski kriminalni bandi, za koi srpskata propaganda obilno pisuva. Ili, mozebe, treba da molci i da se plasi od vasite bedasti besi?
GROW UP, ALJABANJAC!
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За него и банда и мафија е исто. А ваму демек нај, нај. Не му замерувај.
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Постирано од: dras
Датум на внесување: 30.Октомври.2007 во 23:00
Зошто толку труд вложувате да убедите еден човек дали има или нема „албанска мафија“. Албанска мафија во светот секако дека постои, и тоа дури предњачи во својата делатност од другите, во Македонија дали ќе ја наречеме мафија или криминални банди воопшто не е дискутабилно, секако дека и тука постои, особено тоа им е познато на граѓаните од градовите со албанско население повеќе од 20%. Но мене повеќе ме загрижува и збунува политичката продажба во таквите средини, и тоа од политички моќници (читај-градонач....ц.) македонци. Дали мафија е организирана криминална групација, на локално, државно ниво или пак зборуваме за слободни стрелци?.....Веројатно грешам, МВР улови толку полицајци и цариници во толку спектакуларни ТВ серии што во затворите во тоа време немаше место за сите клиенти сигурно тие се „организирани криминалци“!!?......
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Постирано од: VIZANTEL
Датум на внесување: 02.Ноември.2007 во 22:57
dragon напиша:
Khaldun poveli pisi si na svojot majcin jazik samo taka ke ni napravis usluga, ne znam zosto se opteretuvas vaka bukva po bukva, neli si za Ohridskiot ramkoven dogovor pa poveli pridrzuvajse covece. Si se fatil kako pijan za plot niz forumov pa samo novi i novi temi nametnuvas demek mngu si interesen. Se znae sonot na siptarite koj e pa daj sonuvaj si go a nas ostavi ne raat.
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Уште нема Албанско државјанство. Не смее. А тука мора македонски.
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Постирано од: AK47
Датум на внесување: 04.Ноември.2007 во 19:56
Originally posted by barmomk
Koi se glavnite akteri??? VIZANTEL ODGOVORI Глигоровиќ, Слатински, Вуковаровиќ, Псаќански, лидерите на службите за разузнавање и контра разузнавање, ДБК и екс ,,суспендираниот лидер на Секторот за Безбедност, Разузнавање и Контраразузнавање при МО на РМ, и нормално тоа не би било добро изведено доколку во криз- миногениот штаб не е професор доктор по Римско Право, Владо Бучковски.
JAS AK47 MISLAM :
Deka nema albanska mafija, oti se sto se zboruva za albanskata mafija se mitovi, odnosno prikazki napisani od srpskata akademija , a podrzani od ovie ovde, sami si priznavte deka ovie gore spomenatite se podrzuvaci na mafijataaa :) epa sega racunajte sami, gore nema ni eden albanec, koga vikam deka ovaa drzava ja imaat unisteno ovie vasi VODITELI, koga vikam deka ovie se onie koi kradat, ne mi veruvate , sami si priznavte ne sum kriv
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Постирано од: naemnik
Датум на внесување: 05.Ноември.2007 во 13:00
AK47 напиша:
srpskata akademija
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ke treba da se fanesh so TANAS od Podforumot ISTORIJA, i on ima SRBOFOBIJA.....
I ovoj ovde e SRBOMAN, i ja spreading out Srpskata Laga:
http://www.loc.gov/rr/frd/pdf-files/NarcsFundedTerrs_Extrems.pdf - This
study, however, has found links between drug trafficking and former
guerrillas of the Albanian Liberation Army (KLA). The KLA spin-off
groups are well positioned to exploit the Balkan Route, which links the
Golden Crescent of Afghanistan and Pakistan to European drug markets.
As of 2002, Albanian liberation extremists had reportedly used profits
from their participation in Taliban-sponsored narcotics smuggling to
rearm themselves.
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Постирано од: mornar.
Датум на внесување: 07.Ноември.2007 во 23:16
Koza Nostra e pod kontrola na albanskata mafija, no sto baraat tamu i makedonski eks i segasni vozdovi??
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Постирано од: Insomniac
Датум на внесување: 07.Ноември.2007 во 23:47
Каква мафија бре луѓе. Шиптарите живеат во 16 век
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We must secure the existence of our people and a future for Macedonian children.
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Постирано од: moira
Датум на внесување: 08.Ноември.2007 во 13:43
Gresis vo broenje, XIV vek
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Постирано од: AK47
Датум на внесување: 22.Ноември.2007 во 00:24
eve sto e mafija
http://vecer.com.mk/?ItemID=CD4A8C333C12A44D8176F45D41E593AC - http://vecer.com.mk/?ItemID=CD4A8C333C12A44D8176F45D41E593AC
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Постирано од: Boogie
Датум на внесување: 22.Ноември.2007 во 00:26
Da i ova e mafija koja seuste ne e dokrajcena http://www.srpska-mreza.com/library/facts/alb-mafia-wsj-9-9-85.html - http://www.srpska-mreza.com/library/facts/alb-mafia-wsj-9-9-85.html
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Постирано од: AK47
Датум на внесување: 22.Ноември.2007 во 00:30
Bogie, dali procita vo vecer sto pisuva, ovie albaci gi goni drzavata, no ovie samite se drzava, onie ja kontrolirat drzavata, ubijat premieri , pocnuvaat vojni, formiraat paravojski, i sto i sto ne
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Постирано од: Boogie
Датум на внесување: 22.Ноември.2007 во 00:31
А што е диогарди
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Постирано од: *vikicka*
Датум на внесување: 22.Ноември.2007 во 00:34
Boogie напиша:
А што е диогарди
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bodigad na divi kojni
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Постирано од: Boogie
Датум на внесување: 22.Ноември.2007 во 00:37
*vikicka* напиша:
Boogie напиша:
А што е диогарди
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bodigad na divi kojni
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Постирано од: AK47
Датум на внесување: 22.Ноември.2007 во 00:41
mislam deka bil kongresmen vo Usa, i se custvuval kako albanec,
http://youtube.com/watch?v=9wN2_mKQAEA&feature=related - http://youtube.com/watch?v=9wN2_mKQAEA&feature=related
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Постирано од: Boogie
Датум на внесување: 22.Ноември.2007 во 00:45
Значи и такви криминалци има нели
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Постирано од: kojotovik
Датум на внесување: 22.Ноември.2007 во 02:16
ok i ZEVS bil Albanec priznavam
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Постирано од: moira
Датум на внесување: 22.Ноември.2007 во 04:01
Ne bil ama spored AKxx taka se cuvstvuval
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Постирано од: AK47
Датум на внесување: 22.Ноември.2007 во 12:03
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XrlHOjrCh9w - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XrlHOjrCh9w
Vidi be kojotovik, pa jas ne vikam deka on e albanec, on samiot saka da bide albanec, sega i na diogardi ne mu veruvas li ??
Pa ti imas problem togas, covekot sam kazuva golema lubov prema albanskiot narod, bil kongresmen zaedno so zenata, i ima golema mok vo USA , i e pretsedatel na AACL ( Albanian-American Civic League) i zaedno so mnogu drugi kongresmeni raboti za albancite
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BFxzQvNuBLY&feature=related - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BFxzQvNuBLY&feature=related
Eve go i drugiot albanec Tom Lantos, kongresmen , i golem politicar,
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Uhu5u6rG6Qg - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Uhu5u6rG6Qg
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Постирано од: Boogie
Датум на внесување: 22.Ноември.2007 во 13:07
http://www.cooperativeresearch.org/context.jsp?item=western_support_for_islamic_militancy_2115 - http://www.cooperativeresearch.org/context.jsp?item=western_support_for_islamic_militancy_2115
http://www.cooperativeresearch.org/context.jsp?item=western_support_for_islamic_militancy_2115&scale=0#western_support_for_islamic_militancy_2115 - Albanian Mafia and KLA Take Control of Balkan Heroin Trafficking Route .
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Постирано од: AK47
Датум на внесување: 22.Ноември.2007 во 14:28
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/europe/1003770.stm - http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/europe/1003770.stm
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Постирано од: Boogie
Датум на внесување: 22.Ноември.2007 во 15:04
Добро се движиш исто како и Албанија - се надевам дека за 10 години ке не стигнеш у реалнава година инаку денес е 22.11.2007 а постот ти е од Thursday, 2 November, 2000, 18:53 GMT. Пополека ама сигурно се движиш
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Постирано од: AK47
Датум на внесување: 22.Ноември.2007 во 18:00
Постирано од: Boogie
Датум на внесување: 22.Ноември.2007 во 18:22
А не гледаш за исламистичкото движење од 2005-2007,тоа не те интересира а
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Постирано од: AK47
Датум на внесување: 22.Ноември.2007 во 18:26
abe bogie, eve kakvi ste vie, sega koga nemas dokazi za toa , skokas kaj islamizmot, nema vrska toa so islamizmot,
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Постирано од: Boogie
Датум на внесување: 22.Ноември.2007 во 18:32
Како нема врска кога исламистите се финансираат од хероинот,опиумот,црното робје и др. одлики кои Албанската мафија ги поседува
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Постирано од: AK47
Датум на внесување: 22.Ноември.2007 во 18:38
Da , ali krivi se tie sto sakat da se prostituirat, mislam devojkite, a vo makedonija ne se malku tie , osobeno od Rusija, Moldavija, Ukraina,
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Постирано од: Boogie
Датум на внесување: 22.Ноември.2007 во 18:40
Гледај малку вести и ке видиш дека и Албанките не лажат со проституирање,дури ги стигаат сите останати тоа е благодарение на добриот финансиски живот што го имаат
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Постирано од: AK47
Датум на внесување: 22.Ноември.2007 во 18:49
pa toa e nasekade, megjutoa , povise, .....
Barem tuka , taka e
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Постирано од: kojotovik
Датум на внесување: 22.Ноември.2007 во 21:29
ak 47 toa islamot so go spomnuvaas znaes kako me nervira ne si svesen, toj islamot vie treba malce da go prostudirate i da se podelite kako muslimani, zaso edni veruvaat edno vo alah, drug mislat deka gi ima prateno t.e. debili i klosari serat takvi raboti itn.. Ima novi filmovi, sepak se filmovi ama realnost do negde mozete site da gi gledate i da vidite deka ima muslimani ko tebe ak47 i ima muslimani koi bi te ubilite tebe, sepak e realnost toa. The kingdom i Rendition
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Постирано од: moira
Датум на внесување: 22.Ноември.2007 во 22:15
AK47 напиша:
Da , ali krivi se tie sto sakat da se prostituirat, mislam devojkite, a vo makedonija ne se malku tie , osobeno od Rusija, Moldavija, Ukraina,
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Eh, da ve nema vas ke gi nema ni vasite devojki od Moldavija, Rusija, Ukraina. Vie ste glavnite konzumenti i uzivateli na proizvodot Zatoa sto ako nema pobaruvacka za proizvodot, ke nema ni potreba da se proizveduva, pardon uvezuva
Se gleda i po brojot na registriranite i neregistriranite pravni subjekti, nasekade po Zapadna Makedonija, koi pod zakrilata na nekoja legalna dejnost, ja vrsat ilegalnata dejnost - javna kuka.
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Постирано од: Neonic
Датум на внесување: 22.Ноември.2007 во 23:15
Ibn Khaldun напиша:
Pocituvani Forumdzii ,ja otvoram ovaa tema poradi faktot sto nasekade kade se spomnuvaat Albanci (na forumot mislam) ,na nekoi od Clenovite im ostana praksa da ja spomnat i" Albanskata Mafija " navodno taa bila najgolemiot financier na Albanskot prasanje vo Balkanot .Od kade Mitot za famoznata "Albanska Mafija" ,sekako deka toa e del od Srpskata Propaganda protiv Albancite na Kosovo i Albancite voopsto ,postojano ke gi vidite na Mediumite na televizzii kade se pojavuvaat nekoi si kvazi-analiticari kade velat deka "Albanskata Mafija e najka vo svetot" ,najloso e sto nekoi neobrazovani Albanci pagaat na vakvite srpski stapici i tie pocnuvaat da se falat so toa .Realnosta e nesto drugo ,Srpskata politika se obiduva na sekakov nacin da gi ocrni Albancite ,taa namerno veli deka "Albanskata Mafija e najjaka" ,tie namerno te pravat "golem" ,tie namerno te pravat "jak" ,on te forcira za svoi pricini ,ne deka te fali tebe (na Albancite mislam) ,tuku so toa sto ti veli deka si "jak" saka da te prikaze kako golema opasnost.Se znae koj e najjaka Mafia vo svetoto ,ne somneno tuka vodecki se Ruskata ,Kineskata ,Meksikanskata (i drugite Latino-Karteli) .Srbite zaboravaat na "Zemunski KLAN" i mnogu drugi Mafijaski Klanovi ... ,za ponatamu vi ostavam vam da prokomentirate.pozdrav |
EVE TI STUDIJA ZA ALBANSKATA MAFIJA VO EVROPA, A PODOLU GI IMAS IZVORITE NA TAA STUDIJA, A VO NIV NE GLEDAM NI EDEN SRPSKI...
At the heart of the Balkan chaos: the Albanian mafia (2002)
1. The Albanian mafia: a real mafia at the heart of the Balkans?
At the end of 1999, the daily newspaper "Koha Ditore" decided to break
the law of silence: "Drugs are flowing into Kosovo where we are
witnessing the birth of a powerful mafia network", the province is
gradually becoming "a Colombia at the heart of Europe http://www.xavier-raufer.com/english_5.php#1 - 1 .
On 10 March 2000 the special United Nations human rights investigator
returned from a ten-day tour of the Balkans. And what Jiri Dienstbier
said is, if possible, even clearer: "Kosovo is in chaos", the province
has become "a mafia paradise" http://www.xavier-raufer.com/english_5.php#2 - 2 .
This is not the first time that the term "mafia" has served to describe
organised crime at work throughout the albanophone area in the Balkans.
But this debased word has lost so much force that now it describes any
band of hoodlums. Whereas a real mafia is, on the contrary, a precise,
very definite criminal entity having little in common with the "milieu"
of villains which is normally found almost everywhere in the world.
The real mafia
A mafia is a permanent secret society uniting a coalition of "families"
bound by blood or marriage; it is closed, endowed with elaborate
hierarchies and rules from which one only deviates at the risk of ones
life. A merciless law of silence is made to surround it. A gang can be
joined through affinity or friendship; but a mafia may be joined only
by family or clan co-option, after an initiation. Mafias pass over but
the "family" endures - some have been in existence for centuries,
whereas, if its boss is dead or locked up, a gang does not survive for
long. Mafias only recruit on the basis of race or sex; thus, by
cousinhood or clan. Initiation into the Cosa Nostra is only for those
who are Sicilian, even born in Sicily and male. Even if they are
implicit, these rules always exist in a mafia. Able to resist the worst
repression, a mafia is a state within a state with territory, subjects,
laws and armed forces. "The mafia family never dies out. You arrest two
or three of them but the family remains, and if there are not enough
children it co-opts even more daring men and gives them its daughters
as wives. http://www.xavier-raufer.com/english_5.php#3 - 3
The Cosa Nostra survived twenty years of fascism. The Chinese Triads
have resisted fifty years of communism, ten of which were the "Cultural
Revolution" that claimed 30 million victims.
Is the
Albanian-Kosovan-western Macedonian agglomeration a mafia in the strict
sense of the word? Taking strict definitions let us see if the proven
facts in our possession confirm the diagnosis or not.
A real mafia? The circumstances of its appearance.
Several visible signs show that Albanian crime has attained a high
degree of organisation and sophistication. If this stage in itself is
not enough for one to speak of a mafia, discussion is none the less
eminently necessary. The signs are in the multi-criminal activity. The
Albanian villains traffic in drugs, illegal migrants, arms, stolen
vehicles, contraband cigarettes and alcohol. They devote themselves to
pimping and burglary on a grand scale, kidnapping for ransom, contract
killings, audio and video pirating, falsifying official documents
(visas, etc.) and laundering criminal money.
The impressive capacity to conduct highly complex transnational operations.
The secret mass transfer of migrants from the Albanian coastline to
nearby Italy is anything but spontaneous and disorderly. According to a
number of first-hand accounts - and the best Albanian and Italian
experts - it is, on the contrary, a concerted operation aimed at making
Puglia a criminal outpost in the Balkans for the European Union. At the
point of departure ships are "requisitioned" by disciplined, well-armed
teams - not by panic-stricken, destitute hordes. Passengers are
carefully selected on the basis of future possibilities of "agreement"
and of their hard currency funds; once on board, order is assured by
armed criminals who melt into thin air in sight of the Italian coast.
There are other examples of international co-operation practised by Albanian organised crime:
- From Tirana a front company situated in Albania buys and then has
delivered from the US safes, top-quality alarm and security systems.
Subsequently, expert burglars from gangs come from Europe and America
to train using these "demonstration" materials.
- In the field of burglary, specialised gangs have teams variously
qualified depending on the difficulty of the target. Among them are
elite elements whose operations are accompanied by a wealth of security
and protection.
Consummate protection
Even more internalised than at the disappearance of the communist
regime, two-thirds of the agents of the very paranoid Albanian GPU (the
Sigurimi) were sacked; a number of them soon joined the local criminal
clans. These individuals all go under the cover of pseudonyms,
nicknames and false identities. Worse still, according to their local
origins, Albanian hill-dwellers speak dialects crossed with slang which
- even in the nearby valleys - their neighbours understand poorly. Take
these difficulties together (pseudonyms and dialect) and imagine the
difficulties for Italian or Swiss police who have to decipher the
transcripts produced from telephone tapping.
Reliable evidence of criminal sophistication
Michael Lauber, head (in Switzerland) of the fight against organised
crime has said: "The Kosovars and Albanians operate in the greatest
secrecy. It is very difficult to get information from them during
inquiries because they are grouped in small closed clans - almost in
families comparable to the old model of the Italian mafia. Besides,
they are experts in the art of using new technologies such as laptops,
mobiles and the Internet http://www.xavier-raufer.com/english_5.php#4 - 4 .
An officer of the Italian ROS (the elite operations section of the
Italian gendarmerie, specialising in high-risk anti-mafia actions) has
said: "The Kosovo Albanians are among the most dangerous drugs and arms
traffickers. These men are determined, violent and capable of the
worst. They can mobilise in a few hours a host of men at arms and have
at their disposal enormous amounts of ready money. To keep in trim they
burgle homes and businesses every night while constantly being on the
move from one part of Lombardy to another. http://www.xavier-raufer.com/english_5.php#5 - 5
These facts and testimony reveal a high level of criminal
professionalism, but this still does not allow us to speak of a mafia
in the strict sense. Two decisive elements are lacking, namely:
i) A clan society: Kanun, honour and vendetta.
In Albania, more so in the mountainous north of the country, there
survives in an almost chemically pure form (due to the constant
isolation of the country throughout the twentieth century) a
traditional Mediterranean clan society, respectful of ancestral
traditions of honour and vengeance. For most of the mafias these rules
and laws are implicit, passed down by word of mouth. But in Albania the
code of honour or Kanun is written down and the brochure that contains it is on sale in newspaper kiosks.
This traditional Albanian society has, moreover, long been fascinated
by firearms: "The pride a farmer has in his stock or a collector has
when he looks at his most beautiful pieces is nothing compared to the
pride which Albanians feel in their weapons. They are the guardians of
his home, the object of his admiration. They assure him of a dazzling
glory" (English traveller in the Balkans around 1880, quoted in Malcolm
1998). http://www.xavier-raufer.com/english_5.php#6 - 6
ii) Complex organisation, iron discipline.
Up to this point all the elements which would allow us to qualify a
sophisticated transnational criminal organisation as a mafia have been
listed. Only one, deciding factor is lacking, which in itself allows us
to confirm or disqualify the mafia claim: the mode of organisation.
For, in Corsica for example, a clan society and a very active criminal
scene have only produced - for the lack of an appropriate
organisational model or the will to apply one - a circle (milieu) rather than a mafia.
Starting at the base of the pyramid, among Albanian criminals the basic
cell is a team of four to ten men from the same clan and the same
village, often from the same biological family. Specialising in a
distinct kind of criminal activity (pimping, burglary, various types of
trafficking, etc.) and most often very "professional", the team obeys a
boss blindly. Several teams operate on a territory, in a given sector.
In emigration, co-ordinating the activity of the basic cells is done by
a "liaison co-ordination officer" who operates most often under the
cover of a cultural or folkloric activity. Throughout Europe the police
diagnosis is the same: these teams live discreetly, without attracting
attention; they systematically practice counter-surveillance of the
forces of order. The actions they demonstrate often have a military
precision.
To "work" in a cell is to belong to a distinct criminal clan; the
conditions of access to this criminal clan are strict, codified,
ritualised. There is one code, the Kanun,
and one biological cadre, an extended family. There is a hierarchy in
which the ties of blood win out over those of marriage, for example,
tactical co-ordination among local teams is entrusted to a man who can
only have entered the criminal clan through marriage; but strategic
planning, between branches of activity or extended geographical areas
and the criminal directorate situated at home, the co-ordinator must
belong to the clan by blood and the biological family. At the
intermediate level, the second-in-command control a geographical area
or a branch of activity. Depending on place and time, the various
elements of the criminal clan act separately or come together in a
flexible and decentralised manner. At the apex is a boss, assisted by a
directing council which determines major policies and acts as arbiter
in crises. Overall the organisation is adaptable, flexible and capable
of evolving. With regard to tradition and the omerta,
personal initiative is possible - even recommended; mutations and
adaptations are even better since the obedience of the troops is
assured and the scorn of the bosses for the law of the country in which
they operate is absolute.
Finances of the Albanian mafia
Nothing is harder than estimating the "turnover" of one of the most
secret and ferocious criminal societies in the world. Especially when
the only police force which could, under the circumstances, be
effective, that of the Republic of Albania, prefers most of the time to
steer clear of such dangerous entities. We should note, however, that:
In issue number 287 of the Croatian journal "National" (May 2001) the
Croatian minister of the interior, Mr Sime Lucin, estimated the fortune
of one of the main Serb gangsters, Stanko Subotic Cane, at US$ 500
million. And Cane"s main line of activity is only trafficking in
cigarettes, which is much less lucrative than drugs. Besides which, it
is known that most of the heroin transported along the Balkans route
passes through the hands of Albanian mafia groups; that this traffic
has taken off since summer 1999 (before then only 5 to 10 kilograms of
heroin was being seized; since then, from 50 kilograms to nearly one
metric tonne); and that one kilogram of "good" heroin from the Golden
Crescent (Afghanistan, etc.) brings a wholesale price, in western
Europe, of US$ 80,000 to 100,000. This gives some idea of the scale of
profits made by the Albanian mafia.
The deciding distinction made by Italian experts
In autumn 1999 the Italian Directorate for Anti-Mafia Investigations
(DIA) transmitted to its supervising authorities a confidential report
entitled "Strategic and tactical importance of Albanian criminal
organisations". Let us recall that the DIA brings together - for a good
reason - the best experts on mafia phenomena who have been confronted
for years by the most ferocious and intractable criminal families in
the European Union. These are specialists in observation and
penetration one might say dissection, who moreover, have long been
planted on the criminals" patch, in Albania itself. Nobody is better
qualified than they to differentiate between a real mafia and a simple
criminal gang.
In a text showing a high degree of analytical subtlety the DIA experts
flag up from the outset a trap which must not be fallen into - and into
which the Albanian mafia intends to make us fall, by urging us to
confuse the disorder and chaos reigning in Albania for almost a decade
and the reality of the mafia in that country. In fact for the DIA
nothing would be more wrong than to confuse the Albanian mafia with
"the groups of looters leaving their trails throughout the country
without being disturbed, groups with no equivalent in any European
country", this "multitude of hardened gangs operating at the local
level with no link between them" functions "under a regime of
reciprocal non-interference, without one being able to pick out [among
them] dominant cells, and devoting themselves to acts of pillage pure
and simple" Gangs "whose fragmentation reflects the social and
political break-up of the [Albanian] nation".
The Albanian mafia and these anarchical gangs do not mingle. Worse,
these gangs embarrass the local mafias, men of order who prefer to
reach agreements with politicians in their pay and corrupt an
apparently repressive police rather than evolving among the looters who
threaten their profits and the peace of their (biological or criminal)
family. However, on the day when, inevitably, Albanian disorder is
resolved, when an apparent calm reigns in Tirana, the usual optimists
will proclaim the "Good News" of the death of the local mafia. But on
the contrary, that will be the sign that this mafia has finally imposed
order on the anarchic gangs who simply cause trouble prejudicial to
"business".
But what do the DIA experts say about the Albanian mafia itself? "Today
we can speak of a true Albanian mafia in a state of permanent
evolution; it is developing in a criminal context capable of making
remarkable qualitative leaps [...] The actual criminal level of the
Albanian mafia has no equal in any country in the Mediterranean basin,
not even in Turkey" .
- The Albanian mafia in Italy "has at its disposal there a formidable
network of accomplices and supporters used to squeal on members of
rival groups and assist in assassinations."
- Putting down international roots: "The Albanian [mafia] groups
operating abroad work in conditions of perfect criminal sophistication
and territorial integration in the states where their members have been
planted (Germany, Spain, Italy, the Netherlands, Switzerland)". There
is "a perfect osmosis between Albanian mafiosi residing in Italy and
those living in their country of origin". We should note that certain
"globalised" Albanian mafia clans are based outside the albanophone
area, for example in Turkey.
- Unity of criminal law, competition for territory: "Groups active in
Italy operate in competition and are often locked in a struggle with
each other, reflecting the cleavages which exist in Albania".
- Centralisation of decision-making: "Murders committed in Italy are
often a consequence of incidents which happen in Albania linked with
the redistribution of the Italian, and therefore European, heroin
market."
- Law of silence: "The very pronounced mafia character of the Albanian
[criminal] associations follows equally from the behaviour of its
members after an arrest. There is never, even in confidence, any
revealing of the features of the group to which they belong. The
response is unchanging: my [biological] family is in danger in Albania".
- Finance and money laundering: "The Albanian criminal groups show a
remarkable aptitude in the matter of financial management and a
theoretical ability to carry out recycling."
All the characteristics are definitely there. Albanian organised crime
is a mafia, of the first rank. It is also a mafia whose activism is
growing in its primary base in Europe, in Italy. Early in January 2000
the DIA published another report, this one public, intended for
parliamentarians. It is entitled "Vitality of the Italian Mafia, the
Rise of the Albanian Mafia". In this study the latter is described as
"particularly aggressive and determined", the experts underline that it
"has succeeded in planting its networks and logistics in the great
metropolises of northern Italy and on the Adriatic coast".
2. Kosovo, guerillas, mafia: causality or symbiosis?
Since the public appearance of the Kosovo Liberation Army (UCK) during
1996 the accusations and rumours have not ceased. The Kosovo Liberation
Army is a narco-guerrilla financed by heroin from the Balkans route. In
an interview given to the weekly "Der Spiegel" Norbert Spinrath,
president of the association of German police officers, returning from
a stay in Kosovo, declared: "The UCK is a criminal organisation [...]
the UCK sequesters, steals, loots, kidnaps, blackmails, pressurises
witnesses and carries out assassinations". In short it "behaves like a
mafia" http://www.xavier-raufer.com/english_5.php#7 - 7 .
Shortly after, Walter Kege, head of the equivalent Swiss general
intelligence police, affirmed: "we have information which leads us to
think that a link exists between drugs money and the UCK". In January
1999 La Reppublica de Rome, a heavyweight and respected daily, ran the
following headline: "Heroin sold in Milan finances the Kosovo
Liberation Army".
As early as March 1998 commissioner
Olivier Gueniat, head of the Neuchatel criminal investigations
department, warned: "Drugs are financing ethnic war" http://www.xavier-raufer.com/english_5.php#8 - 8 .
He was referring to the war in Kosovo. Confirmation came in June 1998
when an international police operation out of Italy arrested ninety
villains and broke up eight networks of drugs traffickers of which "one
group of Albanians from Kosovo was smuggling arms destined for their
province which was rebelling" http://www.xavier-raufer.com/english_5.php#9 - 9 .
In total, in that single haul, 100 kilograms of heroin and cocaine was
seized. The base of the networks is in Milan where the drugs
traffickers have as cover a vast infrastructure of cafes, restaurants,
garages and various companies.
But even if it seemed serious
to the European media the suspicion of drugs trafficking hanging over
the UCK - "drugs are financing the guerrilla" - does not have much
meaning insofar as it transfers onto the Balkan situation blueprints
and values peculiar to Western Europe but unknown in Eastern Europe,
especially in the albanophone area of the Balkans.
Our, Western European, society is individualist. The individual is
practically the only motor and actor in social life. Getting involved
in a party, acting as a militant in a union, taking up a religion or
joining an association are personal acts relevant to the political,
social or religious conscience of an individual. In the albanophone
area of the Balkans this is absolutely not the case. War, guerrilla,
clans and so on - we are no longer in Western Europe but rather in
Lebanon during the civil war (1975-1990). In the south of that country
and at that time, it was not individuals who joined Amal or Hezbollah -
in the same way as Westerners join Republican or Socialist Parties -
but whole villages, families or clans. In a society of this type the
individual is nothing outside their extended family. Therefore, when,
in the mountains, beyond Baalbek, a clan finances the study abroad of
the best pupil of the village, it happens spontaneously on the orders
of its elders. One of his uncles owns the town garage; he sends him
spare parts from France. Another is "working" a laboratory producing
heroin; the exile delivers the "powder" to Paris. His third uncle is
the local Hezbollah mullah. Jihad is declared against the French Satan:
as the advance guard of the holy war the student hides underground
agents and bombs at his home, when he is not planting the latter
himself, that is.
This is why, in 1986 in the forest at Fontainebleau, the police
unearthed a rubbish bin in which both plastic explosives and brown
heroin was found - merchandise and a symbolic "tool" of criminal clans.
But there is no immediate link in terms of cause and effect between
"powder" and terrorism. One does not directly finance the other. On the
other hand both reveal (in the photographic sense of the term) a
complex, symbiotic criminal multi-faceted system. To try to disentangle
the drugs runner from the terrorist guerrilla is rather a futile
exercise.
Returning to the albanophone area of the Balkans, since pre-Homeric
times, the clan dimension has always been a reality, and how it
disguises itself according to circumstance simply a masquerade to amuse
the gallery. Poor European Marxist-Leninists of the 1960s idolised
Enver Hoxha as a pure, hard revolutionary when in 1962, of 58 members
of his Central Committee, 28 came from the same clan and 8 had married
among themselves. The Albanian Communist Party was more of a tribal
coalition, it was simply a family affair.
Thus we search in vain for material, concrete proof of a huge drugs
traffic organised by the UCK itself, with invoices and delivery notes.
There is no hope of finding a "smoking gun" here. It may be
unpalatable, but like most people living in the province, the UCK
evolved in the bosom of a criminal economy, bathing in a nourishing
plankton of felony. This classic "barter trade" was explained by an
(anonymous) American official posted to Kosovo: "The Albanian mafia has
played a key role in the rise of the UCK. The latter needed money,
smuggling routes and contacts in the Kosovan diaspora; in exchange, the
UCK gave these "patriotic" gangsters political legitimacy". Thus,
throughout Europe, from Oslo to Prague (with Princ Dobroshi), and
across to Milan (with Agim Gashi - see below for profiles), one can see
mafia cells and networks financing "The Cause", buying arms on behalf
of the guerrillas. Even criminals in obscurity, those without rank,
co-operate. In Barcelona, it is a group called the "Vanguardia", "a
gang which burgles companies in the region uses its booty to finance
the UCK". Thus in Europe, in the Balkans or in their homeland a
symbiosis between Kosovan guerrilla and Albanian mafia can be observed.
There remains the case of the important (i.e. "political" and
"military") staff of the UCK. Are they also hand in glove with the
important figures in the mafia? This seems to be the case, in spite of
the great difficulties in carrying out investigations among some of
them, as "L"Humanite" emphasises: "What would happen if one were to
find out that Hashim Thaci, the man on whom the international community
has staked everything to rebuild the province, is implicated in almost
all this traffic? It was without doubt in order to avoid this
embarrassing question that Bernard Kouchner decided to filter out all
enquiries directed against the latter." But in spite of these hurdles
the mafia connections among some of the UCK leaders are well
established, a notch above the army itself and outside of Kosovo
proper, in fact what is known allows us to speak of serious criminal
involvement.
Among the sixteen Kosovar delegates to the Rambouillet conference in
February 1999 was H. Xhavit, presented as a "member of the political
bureau of the UCK". Close to Hashim Thaci (the political head of the
UCK) this man is influential in the Albanian diaspora in Switzerland
and Germany. But this former adviser to Enver Hoxha under the stalinist
regime, is nowadays linked to the special services and to the Tirana
government, and is above all the link between Hasim Thaci and another
Thaci (or Thaqi, according to records), first name Menduli, one of the
heads of the Albanian community in Macedonia.
All experts on the Balkan criminal scene are categorical that the
Albanian parties in Macedonia emanate directly from the local mafia.
Several of their leaders (E. Midhat and H. Hassan) have already been
convicted of arms trafficking. These experts warned the French
government about this in good time, before the Rambouillet meeting.
They added that leaders of these parties, like Menduli Thaci and his
colleague Abdurahman Haliti, have since 1994 directed an armed
community militia forming in reality a criminal bloc bound up with
corrupt elements of the SHIK, the Albanian secret service, and the
local mafia. This bloc operates throughout the "Golden Triangle" on
perfect terms with the heads of the UCK, thanks to the diligence of
consigliere such as H. Xhavit.
After H. Xhavit there are evidently plenty of others in the shadows. To
identify them and reveal their mafia connections would allow us to draw
a criminal web at the centre of which, unsurprisingly, the heads of the
Albanian mafia reign. And potentially more or less near to the centre
of the web one would also be able to identify such and such a Kosovar
politician or military chief. But this last point is at best secondary,
in the region there is no lack of candidates ready to get rich quick.
3. The two "godfathers" of the Albanian mafia
In northern Europe: Princ Dobroshi
On 23 February 1999 Princ Dobroshi, 35, was arrested in Prague by a
police special unit. At the wheel of a BMW, the man was parking in
front of the Hotel Atrium. A little later his right hand man, Murati
Limani, was in turn questioned at his home in Prague. In Dobroski"s
apartment a Croatian machine-pistol, a Chinese telescopic rifle with a
silencer, a Czech handgun and a banknote counter (of the kind used in
banking establishments) were found. This is the usual arsenal of a
drugs trafficker, which is exactly Princ Dobroski"s trade. He is a
big-time drug trafficker and for the Norwegian police, Dobroshi
"controls the Scandinavian drugs market"; to be exact, the northern
path of the Balkans route (Turkey-Balkans-Czech Republic-Nordic
countries). Dobroshi has imported "hundreds of kilograms, even tonnes
of heroin" into Scandinavia. Arrested in Norway in 1993, Dobroshi was
sentenced at the end of 1994 to fourteen years in prison for drugs
trafficking. He escaped in January 1997 from the Ullersmo prison in
Oslo after bribing a guard (who was paid FF 120,000 to turn a blind
eye). He got as far as Croatia where plastic surgery made him
unrecognisable. He moved to Prague in 1997.
For several months a joint operation (codenamed "Cage") between Czech,
Norwegian, Danish and Swedish police targeted the Dobroshi network,
forty-two members of which were questioned up to February 1999. But
when its boss was arrested the "family" quickly made it known that it
would hand over the sum of FF 4 million to whomever in the Czech
Republic could set him free.
Significantly, a note by the BIS (the Czech special services) stated
that part of the drugs money went towards buying arms for the UCK http://www.xavier-raufer.com/english_5.php#10 - 10 .
And when the Czechs decided to extradite Dobroshi, the Norwegian police
eventually chose to take him back to Oslo in a private plane as "it
would be too dangerous to transport him on a commercial flight due to
his close links with the UCK" http://www.xavier-raufer.com/english_5.php#11 - 11 . Dobroshi was returned to his cell in Norway in August 1999.
In southern Europe: Agim Gashi
In July 1998, the special anti-mafia unit of the Italian carabinieri
the ROS, launched operation "Africa". It was aimed at dismantling an
important Albanian mafia clan trafficking heroin worth "hundreds of
millions of dollars" http://www.xavier-raufer.com/english_5.php#12 - 12 .
In all, 124 arrests were made, most of them Albanians, but also
Italians, Germans, Tunisians, Spaniards and Turks. At the head of the
"family" was Agim Gashi, 33, an Albanian from Pristina (in Kosovo)
where he directed at the beginning of the 1990s a drugs trafficking
network under the cover of beauty parlours and estate agencies.
In January 1992 Gashi settled in the suburbs of Milan and married an
Italian. At that time the Albanian criminal clans were active in Milan
- but not yet in drugs. Their speciality then was enslaving children
who were forced into begging, into becoming pickpockets or prostitution
for paedophiles. Violent and pitiless, the Albanian gangsters quickly
imposed themselves on the low-life of Milan, and from prostitution soon
moved into drugs trafficking. Gashi ruled over this traffic. From 1995
he owned beauty parlours and perfume shops in London, companies in
Hungary, Germany and Norway. In Italy itself Gashi established close
professional links with the Ndrangheta, the Calabrian mafia. It was a
case of importing cargoes of drugs into Italy. His associate Avni I.
Ademer, a wholesaler specialising in trade with Turkey, every day hid
"tens of kilos of heroin in his containers of nuts, cotton goods, etc."
Gashi lived the high life in a luxury villa on the outskirts of Milan,
but nevertheless, as a good "patriotic bandit" did not forget his
country. "When war broke out in Kosovo", as Carlos De Donno, commander
of the carabinieri
intelligence unit, remarked, "Kosovar criminals planted in Italy
suddenly took an interest in arms trafficking. Up till then they only
trafficked in drugs." http://www.xavier-raufer.com/english_5.php#13 - 13
Since then the activity in Italy of the Albanian mafia and that of the
overseas elements of the UCK merged, everybody lent a hand, as
telephone tapping operated by the ROS proved http://www.xavier-raufer.com/english_5.php#14 - 14 .
Gashi was in talks with arms dealers from Bulgaria, Romania and Albania
to buy automatic weapons, rocket launchers and grenades. In these
"business" transactions it should be noted that Gashi spoke Serbo-Croat.
Jailed for a long period, Gashi sows less fear. Which doubtless
explains why, at the end of February 1999, his cousin and associate
Ekrem Gashi was assassinated in Pristina, in the purest mafia
tradition, his Mercedes was riddled with bursts of automatic gunfire.
Agim Gashi was convicted and received a heavy sentence in Milan in
March 1999.
4. Why was the Albanian mafia able at this point to spread in Europe? What can be done to avoid such situations in the future?
Forgetting the criminal dimension
In April 1999 the "seventy-eight day war" broke out in Kosovo. A
criminologist should not expound on the political or military dimension
of such a conflict but should warn of the risk, if it exists, and then
analyse the possible criminal consequences of the conflict. With a mind
to the future the criminologist should also think preventively and see
how best to integrate the notion of respect for the law into the
"specifications" of future international operations or peacekeeping
actions.
What happened prior to the NATO military intervention in Kosovo?
In Europe (in France and Great Britain, but also in the United States)
official experts or products of the academic world (criminologists,
police, intelligence officers, etc.) warned the coalition"s political
and military leaders about the very specific nature of the conflict in
the Balkans. Peculiarities, complex and deeply rooted in history, which
are impossible to fully expound upon here. But briefly, these experts
insisted on:
- The hybrid nature of the conflicts in the region. These Balkan
conflicts have always had a military dimension, of course, but also a
strong criminal element.
- The presence in the region of authentic mafias - especially the
Albanian mafia. One degree lower, these experts did not fail to
emphasise the existence in the Balkans of powerful organised crime,
which was rich and well armed.
Truth obliges us to say that no heed was taken of these warnings.
Diplomats continued to carry on their diplomacy, politicians their
policy, and the military made war. The result of this disastrous
neglect of the criminal dimension of the conflict in the Balkans is
that, since then, trafficking in drugs, stolen vehicles and human
beings has exploded in the region and from there has spread to Western
Europe.
Interpol notes that seizures of heroin along the Balkans Route, which
were until the beginning of 1999 from 1 to 5 kilograms on average, have
gone since the summer of 1999 to 50 kilograms and sometimes even one
metric tonne of pure heroin per seizure!
Preventing such catastrophes tomorrow
What can be done so that such a criminal disaster - for which Europe
will pay the price for a long time - is not repeated? What could be the
role of the United Nations, in particular that of the United Nations
Bureau for the Control of Drugs and Prevention of Crime, in the domain
of crisis prevention?
One must be realistic, there will be more such serious international
crises in the future, in the absence of a world order which is clear,
lasting, stable and acceptable to all. In these conditions military
interventions, peacekeeping missions will again be necessary. What can
be done so that, in case of need, the criminal dimension of a given
region will be taken into account? What can be done to avoid a new
Kosovo, where a Pandora"s box was, inadvertently or through ignorance,
opened?
In this case, clamouring for the establishment of the rule of law is
not enough. Asking for the application of the law is a rhetorical
demand if one does not know what laws are in question and what crimes
are most likely to be committed. In short, if one ignores the criminal
reality of the region concerned. In fact laws and legal procedures
have, always and everywhere, one aim: to check and punish specific
crimes. As long as one has no serious idea about the nature of these
crimes one cannot speak seriously of restoring the rule of law. So what
is to be done?
Civil and military officials tend to neglect the advice of experts -
naturally, put forward in secrecy - when faced with the intense media
bombardment to which they are submitted. In a time of grave crisis and
serious criminal danger the warning must therefore be strong and come
from the top. The community of nations should therefore have at its
disposal a crime observatory allowing it to carry out with authority,
responsibility and independence a criminal diagnosis of the region
concerned. The mission of this observatory would be dual:
1) To provide the leaders of the United Nations and the forces of order
with precise and neutral information on the criminal situation in the
region concerned.
2) To make sure that this information is taken into account by political and military leaders involved in the operation.
This observatory could also appraise needs in terms of judges and
precise juridical texts, if a crime wave was to follow intervention. It
is all the more important to have this type of crime X-ray tool since
the forces of justice are slow - bound as they are by laws, rules and
procedures - and since, on the contrary, criminal societies are
essentially opportunist and fast-moving.
Kosovo provides a clear example: since the arrival of NATO forces, from
the beginning of July 1999 at the latest, the mafias were at work
throughout the province. Eighteen months after the start of the NATO
intervention, Kosovo and Albania had no effective reciprocal
extradition agreement allowing Kosovar criminals captured in Albania to
be taken back to Kosovo, and to send back the former Albanian mafias
arrested in Kosovo, without complex juridical wrangling.
In concrete terms we can see that from the point of view of crime the
international community is confronted by problems which are serious but
few in number and similar in nature. Prior to the establishment or
reestablishment of the rule of law it seems important to define a few
great anti-criminal principles of universal import and accepted by all.
The anti-terrorist struggle provides a concrete example here, great
progress has been made in this area when the international community
decided in its entirety that certain acts (indiscriminate attacks,
hijacking aeroplanes, massacres, etc.) were ideologically, politically
and morally unjustified and would henceforth only be considered serious
crimes and inexcusable terrorist acts. These sorts of rules must be
created and approved in the course of the struggle against organised
international crime.
http://www.xavier-raufer.com/english_5.php#1h - 1 Koha Ditore/Courrier International 23/12/99
http://www.xavier-raufer.com/english_5.php#2h - 2 Reuters World 20/3/2000 "UN rights..."
http://www.xavier-raufer.com/english_5.php#3h - 3 Giorgio Bocca "Hell: investigation in mafia country", Payot Documents, 1993.
http://www.xavier-raufer.com/english_5.php#4h - 4 Le Matin-Dimanche 15/8/99.
http://www.xavier-raufer.com/english_5.php#5h - 5 Corriere della Sera 15/10/98.
http://www.xavier-raufer.com/english_5.php#6h - 6 Kosovo, a short history", Noel Malcolm, MacMillan, London, 1998.
http://www.xavier-raufer.com/english_5.php#7h - 7 15/12/99 "Der Spiegel" Norbert Spinrath, president of the association of German police officers
http://www.xavier-raufer.com/english_5.php#8h - 8 Le Temps 28/3/98.
http://www.xavier-raufer.com/english_5.php#9h - 9 AFP 9/6/98.
http://www.xavier-raufer.com/english_5.php#10h - 10 Revealed in March 1999 by the Prague daily Lidove Noviny.
http://www.xavier-raufer.com/english_5.php#11h - 11 The Norway Post 13/04/1999.
http://www.xavier-raufer.com/english_5.php#12h - 12 The Philadelphia Inquirer 15/03/1999.
http://www.xavier-raufer.com/english_5.php#13h - 13 The Philadelphia Inquirer, op. cit.
http://www.xavier-raufer.com/english_5.php#14h - 14 See the Corriere Della Sera of 15/10/98 ("How the Albanian mafia helps the guerilla fighters of Kosovo"), and of 19/01/99.
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тивко и сигурно, ама сосема сигурно изумирате, како волците во планината па затоа Америка као ве заштитува. А кој ќе ја штити нејзе???!!!!
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Датум на внесување: 25.Ноември.2007 во 00:46
eee to da vides koj ke ja stiti nejze hahahahaa
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kojotovik напиша:
eee to da vides koj ke ja stiti nejze hahahahaa
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i ti veruvash vo toa shto go pishuvash?
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